DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Looks like a checkbox by committee of every recently modern trope but just a bit late to the game shite.
Hard pass.
Hard pass.
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Concord | State of Play Reveal Trailer
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geary
Member
This is the epitome of the “ex X,Y, Z developers founded a new studio”…
T0minator
Member
Concords Pros and Cons from their reveal:
Pros:
Gunplay looks great.
The graphics look detailed and nice
The music seems good so far
Weekly story updates is a cool idea
Cons:
The character designs look bad
If it's not F2P then it would be DoA for most
If they had better character designs the game wouldn't be getting as much negativity as it's getting
Pros:
Gunplay looks great.
The graphics look detailed and nice
The music seems good so far
Weekly story updates is a cool idea
Cons:
The character designs look bad
If it's not F2P then it would be DoA for most
If they had better character designs the game wouldn't be getting as much negativity as it's getting
Shifty1897
Member
rhodesianshepard
Banned
This game will flop just like Spider-Man 2...
As long the game is fun to play nobody will give two shits
ManaByte
Rage Bait Youtuber
The game is coming out less than two months before Black Ops 6. It's DOA going up against what is going to be the biggest selling game of 2024.
rhodesianshepard
Banned
It's silly saying that when nobody has played the game. And COD coming out has nothing to do with this game failing because it's "woke". That is just a narrative incels like to run with
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ManaByte
Rage Bait Youtuber
The game is a by the numbers box checker made by a studio founded by a guy who was a publishing exec at Activision who oversaw Destiny for a while. It's game design by Microsoft Excel.
rhodesianshepard
Banned
We will see. Press previews should be at SGF
Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
Spider-Man sold on its IP name alone, not because of its content or writing. The average consumer doesn’t look into the issues of a game, they at most check metacritic and watch an official trailer.
Denorion
Neo Member
Yeah, I said it in a other thread, say what you want about Overwatch, but it never messed up in character design, everyone is either Cool, Funny, Sexy or Cute, it makes you want to unlock different skins for them
Concord's designs feel so bland and safe by comparison, as if they were more concerned about getting articles from kotaku praising them, rather than the average player liking them
Killjoy-NL
Member
Destiny was a massive hit though.
And it got trashed to hell and back after the alpha and beta.
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DannyDanger
Gold Member
Can someone show me why these companies still think Hero Shooters are where it's at? I'm just not seeing the popularity anywhere. Overwatch is nowhere near as big as it used to be. And damn near all the rest of them failed...
At least the marvel one has the recognizable heros that might draw you in.
These companies have a way better chance with a battle Royale, or a pve co op game
At least the marvel one has the recognizable heros that might draw you in.
These companies have a way better chance with a battle Royale, or a pve co op game
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Wait, we are all imagining no white male characters....no pronouns in a video game....no guardians of the galaxy terrible quips.... no focus group the game....
Thank fuck for that. Now I'm interested.
I was worried that this game was the product of signing off marvel/Disney dei of like 5 years ago.
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Denorion
Neo Member
Most of these games started development around 2018-ish, when overwatch was at its peak
Plus, you can bet some execs think "well, if overwatch is not as popular as it used to be, maybe there is a vacuum in the market"
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Sea of Thieves is DOA because it came out a few months before the best selling game of eternity COD from our lord and saviors at Microsoft!!!!
ManaByte
Rage Bait Youtuber
Sea of Thieves is DOA because it came out a few months before the best selling game of eternity COD from our lord and saviors at Microsoft!!!!
COD is the #1 selling game every year on PSN. EVERY YEAR.
Black Ops is so popular that Cold War was the #1 selling game on PSN in both 2020 AND 2021 (Vanguard was #2 in 2021).
This is Black Ops 6. Literally nothing releasing on the PS5 this year is going to touch what it's going to sell.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Thank you Aaron Greenberg
Now what does that have to do with another game coming out and being successful on its own terms?
ManaByte
Rage Bait Youtuber
It's the same genre going for the same audience. Except Treyarch didn't sell out to Sweet Baby for BLOPS6.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Completely different genres, likely completely different crowd?
James Sawyer Ford
Member
It’s not the same type of game at all. You’re clearly clueless about this stuff
They don’t look or play anything alike. I have zero interest in playing a CoD arena shooter.
I am excited to play a class based team pvp with halo/destiny mechanics
PvP is an incredibly broad there with audiences that may not overlap at all
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Killjoy-NL
Member
Same audience? Lol
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Bry0
Member
These games always have a chance to pop off if it’s fun and well funded. I don’t EXPECT that to happen with Concord but I wouldn’t rule it out entirely. If valves new game drops anywhere around the time this does into a public beta or something this thing will be screwed on PC though.
ManaByte
Rage Bait Youtuber
Optional stuff like that has been in COD for years. Stop trying to equate optional camos to the Sweet Baby designed characters you're forced to play as in Concord.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
More derpy derp derp. Your DEI is worse than mine. Transgender bullets is less woke than a green lizard man
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rhodesianshepard
Banned
Dude, you can get killed by Transgender bullets, how is that optional?
Bumblebeetuna
Member
Remove the “woke” stuff people are whining about in Concord and you’re still left with generic looking gameplay that no one is leaving Apex or Overwatch or CoD for.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
The gameplay looks better than all the games you listed to me
Nothing generic about Destiny mechanics they are best in the business
Killjoy-NL
Member
Why do people keep using Apex Legends as an argument?
That's primarily a battle royale, so a completely different genre.
Might as well compare it to Smite.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
People compare it to Destiny and maybe the only thing it reminds me of Destiny is the gunplay
People have said its Destiny in a 5 v 5 Hero arena shooter which is Overwatch
But people have a right to their opinions but some seem to be resorting to making things personal
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Mechanics and gunplay is what makes a shooter what it is.
This does not look like it plays like OW or Apex
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
This game needs to be an Avengers level failure for Sony to get the message.
(it will be)
I think they know it too. The fact that its NOT f2P is just them saying "lets just make as much money as we can from this flop".
They are sending it out to die, no one is going to buy this game lol. But they already bought the studio and the game is already basically done so they will put it out and make a few million
(it will be)
I think they know it too. The fact that its NOT f2P is just them saying "lets just make as much money as we can from this flop".
They are sending it out to die, no one is going to buy this game lol. But they already bought the studio and the game is already basically done so they will put it out and make a few million
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Killjoy-NL
Member
I've noticed a lot of people make a comparison to Destiny.
Given that a lot of former Destiny devs apparently work on Concord, maybe it's a mix of Destiny and OW.
Since I liked both, it actually sounds like it could be better than a lot of people expect it to be.
It would basically be like 5v5 Crucible matches.
ManaByte
Rage Bait Youtuber
Former Destiny devs work at ProbablyMonsters, which is what Firewalk used to be part of. ProbablyMonsters is working on stuff separate from Concord. The Destiny connection to Concord is that the studio head of Firewalk was the ABK publishing executive who oversaw Destiny. He wasn't a dev.
Killjoy-NL
Member
Just looked it up, sounds like it's more than just the Studio head that came from Bungie, it's also the former Creative Director for Destiny and since they talking about a team, I think it's safe to assume they got some more former Bungie-employees (also people that were working on Halo and COD):.
Sony Interactive Entertainment to Acquire Firewalk Studios from ProbablyMonsters Inc
SAN MATEO, Calif., April 20, 2023 – Sony Interactive Entertainment LLC (“SIE”) announced today it has entered into an agreement with ProbablyMonsters Inc. to acquire Firewalk Studios™, a studio of industry-leading creatives developing an original AAA multiplayer game for PlayStation®5 (PS5™) and...
sonyinteractive.com
Who knows, maybe they will surprise us?
Doesn't sound like a studio made up of starting indie-devs.
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xHunter
Member
Just looked it up, sounds like it's more than just the Studio head that came from Bungie, it's also the former Creative Director for Destiny and since they talking about a team, I think it's safe to say they got some more former Bungie-employees:.
Sony Interactive Entertainment to Acquire Firewalk Studios from ProbablyMonsters Inc
SAN MATEO, Calif., April 20, 2023 – Sony Interactive Entertainment LLC (“SIE”) announced today it has entered into an agreement with ProbablyMonsters Inc. to acquire Firewalk Studios™, a studio of industry-leading creatives developing an original AAA multiplayer game for PlayStation®5 (PS5™) and...
ManaByte
knows every single dev working at Firewalk. If he says the only connection to Destiny is the studio dev, then that is the case. I mean why would he lie (again)?
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rhodesianshepard
Banned
Yeah, Sony learned their lesson by making Helldivers 2 40$. Real dumb of them to do that. Obv sent it out to die....
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Killjoy-NL
Member
For €40 I'm 100% pre-ordering the game just to check out the beta.
Astray
Member
I actually looked into this.
Apparently ProbablyMonsters are like an incubator for gaming dev studio start-ups, Firewalk "graduated" from there with the Sony investment or something like that.
ManaByte
Rage Bait Youtuber
Sony was always publishing Firewalk's game even when they were part of ProbablyMonsters.
Astray
Member
IDK if that's true or not.
From ProbablyMonsters' site:
Seems like their business model is to build up studios and sell them to bigger companies and get a cut, kinda like what Y-Combinator does in Silicon Valley. Firewalk is one such studio.
It's also notable that a big chunk of PM's upper management is ex-Bungie.
They have a new team announced called Hidden Grove.
ManaByte
Rage Bait Youtuber
They announced it in 2021
PlayStation and Firewalk Studios announce publishing partnership for a new, original multiplayer IP
Firewalk’s AAA team sets its sights on creating memorable multiplayer moments for players.
blog.playstation.com
Fake
Member
Imagine comparing a IP like Spider-Man with other generic new IP to even try to prove your argument.
What next? Pokemon?
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If you can’t spot the difference between this and Helldivers 2 then I don’t know what to tell you. You are being naive as hell to think these are the same lol.
Hell even public reception towards both are worlds apart
Killjoy-NL
Member
Barely anyone cared for HD2 until it exploded post-launch, so it wasn't that much better.
At the very least, Concord got more eyes on it.
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It looks like a overwatch clone half a decade too late.
Inspired by guardians of the galaxy, several years too late. The last guardians movie bombed. The guardians single player game bombed.
The clone from a brand new unproven studio going to succeed?
I honestly think people are growing tired of this art style. It shows in the YouTube dislike ratio and the comments
Straight up, if they went SOCOM, realistic military style, with the same 5 vs 5 .. they’d have a hit
Killjoy-NL
Member
You could be right.
I'm not even saying the game can't bomb. But I do think that it's better to wait for previews at leasr and the beta next month, because looking past the Wokeness, the gameplay footage looked smooth as fuck.
And some of the stuff the devs were talking about makes it sound deeper than OW.
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Salz01
Member
What is the dislike YouTube ratio. I hate that they disabled it and you need an ext.