Gambit2483
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Agreed, we are definitely in a worse place now. There's no passion left in the West anymore once the corpo suits completely took over.
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Digital Foundry calls out Turn10 for downgrading Forza Motorsport.
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Barakov
Gold Member
Meanwhile …
The article does mention lifelike graphics but they are referring to slums,ghettoes,and blight. There are levels to lifelike-ness.Who did they ask, this guy?
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RickMasters
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I own 3 custom built PCs ( and two macs) primarily for music production. Even built them myself…. All of them liquid cooled the weakest one has an over clocked i9 the strongest is an 18 core x299 build….NVME and SSD drives throughout…. Powerful GPUs, in all of them. I even play a few games on them. That said….. I have no desire to make any of my PCs my main gaming platform. Using that as a beacon of perspective here….. I would not consider myself a PC gamer. Inspite of having better hardware for gaming than most people who actually build PCs for gaming. Console gamers are generally not i streets don building their own. They are not interested in delicately placing the cpu into the motherboard of gently forcing NVMes and RAM into delicate slots. I doubt most even know what a grounding strap is….. these are not assumptions. These are the reason console gamers are console gamers and PC gamers are PC gamers. Console gamers just want a silent, simple box that boots up in seconds and they can get straight into a game. PC gaming is not like that….. you log in…. You wait a lil while…. You load you game and hopefully…. It’s not a buggy unoptimised mess. Console gamers don’t deal with that. They are not interested in making corrections to registry’s caused by corrupted files. I’m fact…. They barely understand PCs!
For me PCs are primarily for work and productivity.
For most people they just want a simple dedicated gaming device that sits under the TV and they can enjoy from the couch. The PC is not that device.
Hawking Radiation
Member
I just got the game yesterday.
I'm on PC and on an RTX 3080 with everything set to max. The game looks nothing special and a lot worse than what I personally expected.
I am disappointed.
I'm on PC and on an RTX 3080 with everything set to max. The game looks nothing special and a lot worse than what I personally expected.
I am disappointed.
DJ12
Member
It's not the generational leap some people have been making out, in many cases it's worse than the game it measures itself against. (Comparing PC to PS5)
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demigod
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PC peasants
96 fps
demigod
Member
Hawking Radiation
Member
Yeah I didn't want ot make that comparison because I don't want to start unecessary arguments on that as there's a different thread for comparing racing game visuals.
It's not the generational leap some people have been making out, in many cases it's worse than the game it measures itself against. (Comparing PC to PS5)
BUT I did expect a lot more from Turn10 and espcially the PC version of the game. I can understand if this was the standard for consoles. Hopefully they can 'beautify' the game in future updates on PC?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Team Andromeda
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Your 'games list' was system bashing and you really showed yourself for what you are...
Team Andromeda
Member
BC is not 100% on the PC and Alex was very disingenuous in the way he talked of BC on the PC. I have many games that no longer work on a modern PC. Unless you look to buy them on Steam or download a workaround; Both of which you need the internet for added irony
There are workarounds for console games, be that at worst Emu or at best using an SD card to play those classic games with no need for physical media on your console and I started my gaming life on the ZX Spectrum in 1983 one had trouble loading games up back then, never mind now (if you still have have a tape deck) so Richard point was rather silly on that score too, like it was over Smart Delivery
systemr123
Member
Really? I thought I literally named some games that I actually liked, but they are niche games. Wouldn’t call that system bashing. And I forgot to mention Starfield even.
But ok maybe it does show me for what I am. Someone who enjoys playing video games but can also be critic of them. Also, has nothing to do with what system they are on. If the game would be crap on ps5 or Switch, or anything else I’ll still be critic of it.
E.G. I said I enjoy playing Starfield myself, but I can see why it’s not a high quality game and why many people wouldn’t like it.
Maybe this shows more of what you are, an MS defender to the death, unable to see what is good and what is not. Blinded by MS is the godz.
Team Andromeda
Member
No just trolling, Bye-bye!!!
Team Andromeda
Member
Please anytime someone needs to make a 'list' of games that are 'crap' on a system. One knows the game you are playing Jim
systemr123
Member
Oh wow going full delusional now, I’m not Jim, I’m sorry. Maybe you should go see a doctor and talk about your state of mind.
Also, I can promise you if Spider-Man 2 comes out broken and as a terrible game, I’ll be just as critic of it. But then again, we can say with more than 90% certainty it will turn out great. I know it pains you but you don’t have to project your insecurities about your box/games of choice on me.
Ps: I didn’t create a list of games that are crap on the system. Maybe you should read again. I made a list of games that I think are nice, but I understand why people wouldn’t buy them.
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YeulEmeralda
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PC, HDMI cable to TV and a Dualsense controller. The PC is now that device
MonkeyClaw36
Member
Whatever makes you sleep at night sunshine. It's a fact. (Still have my One X for Forza 7 though)
Fun thing is, when you call bs, it's up to you to prove it. So by all means GO!
Meanwhile I got a receipt lying on my desk for a PS5 +FC24 for 498 euros. Fuck you.
Bye-bye!!!
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HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Not really.Sadly all the developers and publishers do this
MonkeyClaw36
Member
Just stop it you inbred troll. And you call others trolls!? Holy shit, the sheer levels of hypocrisy are someting I've never seen before. And I was a member of ResetEra. Says a lot.
Log out, have wank, a smile and juuuuuuust STFU.
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
Is any of this 'downgrading' due to making it run on the Series S?
Yes, really.
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
No matter how many times you scream this, unless you're prepared to prove otherwise, the answer is still no. They don't all do this.
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Negotiator101
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Sony first party regularly do it, Ubisoft ( all the time), CDPR, Bungie, 343i, EA.
TheTony316
Member
Yeah but you still need a keyboard and mouse for everything that isn't big picture mode. PC is riddled with launchers that don't support controller navigation and many games tend to launch on windowed mode, which is annoying.
It mostly works well but it isn't as fast or convenient as a console.
And most people just don't want to have a gaming PC in their living room.
The Last Ninja
Member
Don't forget the keyboard & mouse for when you get that popup that asks if you want to play in DX11 or DX12!
TheTony316
Member
Or when you launch Cyberpunk through Steam and it opens the GOG launcher instead!
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Bad faith argument is bad.
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
I see. That's everyone. Got it.
I'm curious (this should be good) what Sony 1st Party games looked significantly worse at launch than their reveal since the start of the PS4 days? Should be easy, given that's only 10 years. Name them.
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j0hnnix
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Heard that before from a voice in a field full of stars.Built from the ground up for 6 years
Insane Metal
Member
Built from the ground up
skit_data
Member
This one is pretty realistic though:Built from the ground up
I'd also go "wtf are all these people doing?" in that situation
Somebody has set it to low settings and is trolling most likely in those shots. There is no way any part of the track is that bad. Is there?Built from the ground up
Turk1993
GAFs #1 source for car graphic comparisons
Its zoomed in photomode shots, remember Forza doesn't render the zoomed in area in photomode. The distance lod stays the same in the area you start the photomode. And it could be also low settings on top of that ofcourse.
Insane Metal
Member
I've seen lots of footage with details looking like that
demigod
Member
Insane Metal
Member
Trolling? A few days Ago I captured some shots from a review showing stuff like that. It usually happens in replays.
BTW is this comparison true? I know it's a cherry picked image, it's not mine. Found it somehwere else.
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Oh no you're going to reawaken "puddlegate".
I suppose this is because the camera in replays sometimes zooms and waits for a car to come over a hill or something so you get a lot of long distance footage showing these low detail backgrounds. It's bizarre that they've not tied the LOD to the view frustum somehow though. I guess that means telephoto shots with a high fstop won't look good in forza either.
Turk1993
GAFs #1 source for car graphic comparisons
Yeah nice, again with the found it somewhere lol, let me guess Emula86 on twitterTrolling? A few days Ago I captured some shots from a review showing stuff like that. It usually happens in replays.
BTW is this comparison true? I know it's a cherry picked image, it's not mine. Found it somehwere else.
. Typical scape mode shots from him. Yes we all know scape car models are the best models ever. But they are never in real time outside scape mode and car buying preview. And why do you post random stuff from people without knowing where its coming from or how its captured. How you feel if i post some random troll pictures of GT7 and act like you and say here i found something somewhere. And yeah it happens in every game because it has zoomed in camera angles. Every racing game has this.
Turk1993
GAFs #1 source for car graphic comparisons
The photomode is the same as always. Zero improvements shamefully. Its still the same in game graphics with the only additions been downsampling and bokeh.
Insane Metal
Member
No on a brazilian board I am part of. I don't see twitter.Yeah nice, again with the found it somewhere lol, let me guess Emula86 on twitter
Turk1993
GAFs #1 source for car graphic comparisons
What a coincidence hes also brazilian, just like our fellow banned brazilian friend.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Trolling? A few days Ago I captured some shots from a review showing stuff like that. It usually happens in replays.
BTW is this comparison true? I know it's a cherry picked image, it's not mine. Found it somehwere else.
Where is the 2nd image from?
Turk1993
GAFs #1 source for car graphic comparisons
Scapemode in GT7, its one of the museum interiors where you can get the camera closer to the car.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
JESUS!!! Is that real-time for GT7? Or all fake?
digoutyoursoul
Member
John has appeared on Jez Corden and the other guy who calls it X BAWKS YouTube stream the Xbox Two , it’s only available on Patreon at the moment. I wonder if this topic will enter the conversation.
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Turk1993
GAFs #1 source for car graphic comparisons
No, just the car model in a 2d background photomode. The headlight and taillight details in GT7 are the best out of any game tho. They are unrivaled when it comes to those details.