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Gotham Knights apparently is locked 4k/30fps on consoles
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Skifi28
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Tell him not to open it and he'll be able to sell it for 4 times that at some point. There are always suckers for reselling limited editions.My mate dropped 280 quid on the collector's edition of this
Rocco Schiavone
Member
Bullshit excuse. Horizon Forbidden West has also a "detailed" open world. But guess what there are even 3 modes to chose from. Also there's a 60 FPS Mode.
SamaelSavage
Banned
Ooooh i dont like this, now some dude tweeted that plague tale requiem is also 30 fps.
We're backsliding into peasantry.
We're backsliding into peasantry.
FingerBang
Member
This is not a fast paced action game, I don't really have a problem with APTR being 30 fps but you feel that in Gotham Knights a lot.
Skifi28
Member
TrebleShot
Member
This tweet alludes to a possible 60 mode patched in.
xrnzaaas
Member
It's true Plague Tale Requiem probably won't suffer that much from 30fps, but if you've played Plague Tale Innocence in 30fps on last gen consoles and then in 60fps on current gen hardware you'll immediately notice how much better the overall experience is. I'd pick 60fps for Plague Tale Requiem even if that meant a significant hit in the graphics quality.
8BiTw0LF
Banned
It's not that current-gen can't do 60fps in Gotham Knights - it's essentially a crossgen title that looks worse than God of War and The Last of Us Part 2.
Blame it on incompetent developers and/or rushing publishers.
Hobbygaming
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This can be scaled down a ton, there's no need for that many polygons in that demo. We will have a good leap in visuals this gen. Ratchet and Demon Souls still look amazing even though they're early titles
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
PC ftw yet again.
Klosshufvud
Member
Pro models won't solve the real issue here - incompetent management and third-rate programmers wasting incredible performance on poorly coded UE4 games. There comes a point where hardware is no longer the greatest bottleneck of performance but rather competence.
kyliethicc
Member
And they're 60 FPS. Ratchet has no issue running north of 60 too btw, even with RT.
Slothbeing1209
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From Rocksteady dev.
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Hobbygaming
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I was just saying this. He's a developer at Rocksteady and that shot at the Series S Lmao
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Kacho
Member
Lmao.
Dr. Samuel Hayden
Member
"Pay us what we're worth"
"I-i-it's Microsoft's fault!"
What an entitled shithead.
"I-i-it's Microsoft's fault!"
What an entitled shithead.
darrylgorn
Member
You know, I'm not a programmer (or a rocket scientist here) but I'm pretty sure they can release a 60fps version at 1080p. Hell, you can even do a 45fps version at a lower resolution if need be.
None of that takes any additional programming to implement.
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hemo memo
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Stuart360
Member
The Series S is a conveniant excuse for devs to shift blame.
We have seen already some devs use 30fps on XSS and 60fps on XSX/PS5. And even then Series S usually gets 60fps too more often than not.
Sony fans will love those comments but that dev is just shifting blame away from devs now they are having a bit of backlash with this game.
We have seen already some devs use 30fps on XSS and 60fps on XSX/PS5. And even then Series S usually gets 60fps too more often than not.
Sony fans will love those comments but that dev is just shifting blame away from devs now they are having a bit of backlash with this game.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
They are just straight up bullshitting people. If the weakest hardware is the baseline for what you can achieve, Series S is much more powerful than Xbox One so there should be a significant gap in any case. That also don't tell us why there is no 60 fps mode. If you manage to run the game in 1080P 30 fps on the S for example, why can't you have a performance mode on X or PS5 ? Doesn't make any sense.
And we have plenty of example of how the Series S can perform, even though of course every development has its own need and every game is different.
You mean Rocksteady right ?
WB Montreal has nothing to do with Arkham knight game.
kadab
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DeepEnigma
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Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
big facts. I made threads about this years ago and I got called a cOnCeRn WarRi0r.. fucking noobs. we all saw this coming.
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Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
Exactly what I've been preaching for years. But apparently im insaneI was just saying this. He's a developer at Rocksteady and that shot at the Series S Lmao
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60fps takes away from everything else. Like how in the hell is it ever worth it lol
Games look worse, development takes longer. Somehow thats a win. lmao.
So again, just buy a PC.
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HeisenbergFX4
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This is pretty unfortunate for a premiere next gen showcase game. I wonder if this is a sign of things to come for ‘next gen’ only games
Its why we need those mid gen refreshes as I agree pushing these new consoles with new gen only games will lead to 30 fps
Killer8
Member
Makes no sense multiplayer being the issue, pc is going to have various framerates and resolutions and im pretty they will still connect to each other right?
Also was this really considered a next gen showcase title? it has never looked better than arkham knight right from the reveal and the recent videos look down right average.
Also was this really considered a next gen showcase title? it has never looked better than arkham knight right from the reveal and the recent videos look down right average.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
We would not need them so badly for third party if there wasn't a "potato." According to his words, not mine.
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hemo memo
Gold Member
100%
Give the option and let people choose. Not having a 60fps/performance option unlike most games released this gen is simply unacceptable.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Ratchet, Demon's Souls, hell even HFW even at cross gen (since there were some major upgrades in environmental textures/shaders and geometry/lighting), and more than likely GoWR look pretty damned good at 60.Exactly what I've been preaching for years. But apparently im insane
60fps takes away from everything else. Like how in the hell is it ever worth it lol
Games look worse, development takes longer. Somehow thats a win. lmao.
So again, just buy a PC.
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Topher
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Jibran#one
Member
If the consoles can't do 60 I can bet PC version will be a shitshow too, people forgot what an asswipe the last batman game was on PC
MatrixReloaded101
Member
A lot of multiplayer games have been released on the PS5/Series X/XSS that can do 60 fps. That’s were his argument falls apart.
I still think a game can be good at 30 fps but I have zero confidence in Gotham Knights.
Nothing about the game looks next gen, it seems like a last gen game that they are labeling as next gen to charge $70.
Can't wait for the reviews to drop
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I've said from the beginning, if they wanted a digital version, they should have just made a discless XSX for $400. This gen would have been so much better off for third party devs.
But then again, they were after that $300 casual price point for the GP Trojan and would have probably had an even lower market share in units sold than they do now.
HeisenbergFX4
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I thought there were a number of games running 30 fps on Series S and 60 on Series X and PS5?
He even answers that actually in the end he doesnt have an answer
He even says he doesnt REALLY know
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Again, it doesn't make any sense why you would need even more powerful hardware, when devs are saying they are constrained by weakest hardware. It's exactly the fact they have to scale down the technical ambition of a game for the Series S (which they will still do even if we have a PS5 Pro), that should allow us to have 60 fps for every game on the X and PS5. It's pure logic.
I'm not saying the S isn't slowing down the gen, but it's precisely for that we should have more 60 fps games this gen on the most powerful consoles.
Hobbygaming
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Yup, unfortunately graphics require the most speed and with 60FPS developers only have half the frame time to work withExactly what I've been preaching for years. But apparently im insane
60fps takes away from everything else. Like how in the hell is it ever worth it lol
Games look worse, development takes longer. Somehow thats a win. lmao.
So again, just buy a PC.
Topher
Gold Member
Uh...yeah, if he is suddenly guessing then he needs to stop tweeting. He isn't doing himself any favors here. "Go easy" he says. lol....too late, bro.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Sure, but I think there are issues compared to on the PC when it comes to a full co-op game and that framerate difference. Single player games are one thing, multiplayer on consoles with lower extraction layers I assume have to sync up.
Stuart360
Member
So he's not even a dev on the game.
There have been some XSS games that have been 30fps and 60fps on PS5/XSX. This game being 30fps has nothing to do with the XSS, i mean how does that even make sense?. Maybe if the game was 1080p/30 on XSX/PS5 as the resolution would have to be so low on XSS, but its not, its 4k on XSX/PS5.
