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Sherlock Series 4 |OT| - Did You Miss Me?

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Jackpot

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For US viewers, Culverton Smith was based on Jimmy Savile.

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A nationally-famous children's TV presenter and charity worker, he was literally given the keys to hospitals he raised money for because he visited them so regularly. He was also a serial rapist and necrophiliac, with almost 1000 victims and nurses personally witnessing him molesting corpses and doing nothing about it. He had an ostensibly "creepy uncle" persona that made everyone go "yeah, course he's a pervert, look at him".
 

ThankeeSai

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What a fantastic episode.

Very cleverly written and Toby Jones was immense.

Hope the finale can live up to this one!
 
Uggggh did not know the extent of Saville's crimes. The whole "celebrity serial killer" is so disturbing because yeah... That could happen.


And OH MY GOD

MORIARTY WAS HER WATSON
 

VegiHam

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After the real Faith came into the morgue and she said they'd never met it clicked. I thought they'd re-introduce the lady John met on the bus and I'd remembered that the fake Faith and her looked familar The psychiatrist didn't really click until she came back at the end of the episode.

Sherrinford was a name Arthur Conan Doyle originally considered before he decided on Sherlock. It seems to be the codename they were using for Eurus.

See I figured Sherlock had met a fake; cus it being a hallucination would be too contrived; but I didn't put together any of the resemblances until the end.

I know the out of universe reasons for Sherrinford; I'm just wondering if John's "locked up in a tower" line was foreshadowing something maybe...
 

Lyonaz

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Loved the episode and damn Toby Jones' teeth was creepy as shit.
That ending though, hyped for the last episode next week.
 

twobear

sputum-flecked apoplexy
wew, an EPISODE

you would have thought
sherlock would recognise his sister tho? but i guess he was mashed.

Watched it all, but one thing I cant work out is at the start we saw the daughter writing that letter with Toby Jones, so how does that come into play?
Did Sherringford get hold of it somehow? Or is this something we expect to be explained next week?

she says at the end, 'culverton gave me faith's original note'
 

Nodnol

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Superb episode.

Probably in my top three or four (though that's not saying much given how many there are). Up there with the best of the series though.

Jones was great, and I enjoyed how they successfully threw the audience's attention one way and then the other.

Looking forward to the finale and how they're going to play with the twist.
 

War Peaceman

You're a big guy.
I'm honestly surprised more programmes haven't gone the Saville route. It was a bit on the nose when he got out the keys to the hospital. Not to mention the accent.

Good episode though. I wish they would be a little more straightforward in their story telling. Constant flashbacks and forwards and starting in media res just become disorienting. I know there was some relevance with the drug use, but it has already been overused so the effect is lessened.

The foreshadowing for the twist was great, though. Plus Toby Jones was terrific as always.
 

Rodin

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Unbelievably good and clever from top to bottom. Not only the best *x02 by far, one of the best episodes in the entire series.

Yeah, I was sick of her by the end. Hope she doesn't pop up in the next episode, but she probably will.
No she won't. Have you watched the episode?
 
Well, that was better.

Though unfortunately the conclusion of the main plot was yet again disappointing and couldn't live up to the great start. Another villain far better than Moriarty sees an underwhelming end, they bail out of delusional drugged Sherlock too easily (all planned!!1), particularly because oh my god it actually all went back to goddamn Mary again stahp. Plus they dug up the only thing I really hate about season 2, i.e. the bail-out happy end of its first episode, which didn't help to brighten my mood.

Though that extra bit was certainly hype. Hopefully they won't waste it...
 
When that someone started undressing, I thought for a second that the next thing would be a wig, some voice alterer and fullblown "MORIARTY BITCHES".
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Man .. that was a gooooooood episode. Both me and the wife really loved it.
 
Wow, amazing episode. Couldn't be more night and day between this one and the previous. Glad they actually did something interesting with John rather than making him helplessly mopey.
 

Jhoan

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This character is a massive dick and reminds me of a British version of Donald Trump. I would think this is a modern take on the Augustus Milverton character. It's been a pretty solid episode so far compared to the previous one. Sherlock drugged up and unhinged and Watson's schizophrenia really work well as a parallel. Plus there are so many tense scenes.
 

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
This was Mrs. Hudson's episode. She stole the show. I'm so glad they gave her more screentime and some genuinely funny scenes in this episode.

The ending had my jaw on the floor. There is something so creepy
about the different colored eyes.
 

woodland

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I need to rewatch the older seasons, but that episode might be one of my top 3. That ending blew my mind, the rest of the ep was amazing, and the scene where he was outside deducing with
Euros
was crazy cool.

This was Mrs. Hudson's episode. She stole the show. I'm so glad they gave her more screentime and some genuinely funny scenes in this episode.

The ending had my jaw on the floor. There is something so creepy
about the different colored eyes.

Also loved the Mrs. Hudson stuff. Didn't think there would be more after the first 25 mins, then she popped up and killed it again. I love Mycroft so the only thing that could've made this ep better was a bit more of him but all-in-all, just a killer ep.
 
Wow, now that's more like it. One of my favourites, and much better than last week's episode.

I think the final episode being named
"The Final Problem"
makes a lot more sense.

"Jim: Ah, that's the problem, the final problem. Have you worked out what it is yet? What's the final problem? I did tell you... but did you listen?"

Seems like Moriarty had one more gambit even after his death. If everything had failed between Sherlock taking down his criminal empire, and managing to escape death, then he was going to rely on the last Holmes sibling to burn everything that Sherlock holds near and dear.
 
Show redeemed!! So glad they powered back so strong and ... Sherlock-y.

Was all the drug stuff (those rando powerful people being hooked up at the start) all real or stuff imagined by Sherlock? Thats the one thing that made zero sense to me, why some serial killer is hooking up random powerful people to confess to them his crimes. I >think< Sherlock said the dude was confessing his crimes in the morgue to corpses which is why its his favorite room, so that entire opening scene was just Sherlock "imagination room"-ing the experience, but wanted to see if anyone else thought that. But then where did the note come from... or did sister just craft the whole thing from scratch?

Hope the series/season ends up strong with the final episode, now I'm excited again after the disappointing premiere.
 
Oh yeah, Ms. Hudson's time to shine.

Also, along with all the creepy stuff the comedy stuff was great too.

I need to rewatch the older seasons, but that episode might be one of my top 3. That ending blew my mind, the rest of the ep was amazing, and the scene where he was outside deducing with
Euros
was crazy cool.

Yeah, I loved the part where they had him drawing out the scene in the street.

That last scene, damn, I couldn't tell.
 

Eklesp

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Show redeemed!! So glad they powered back so strong and ... Sherlock-y.

Was all the drug stuff (those rando powerful people being hooked up at the start) all real or stuff imagined by Sherlock? Thats the one thing that made zero sense to me, why some serial killer is hooking up random powerful people to confess to them his crimes. I >think< Sherlock said the dude was confessing his crimes in the morgue to corpses which is why its his favorite room, so that entire opening scene was just Sherlock "imagination room"-ing the experience, but wanted to see if anyone else thought that. But then where did the note come from... or did sister just craft the whole thing from scratch?

Hope the series/season ends up strong with the final episode, now I'm excited again after the disappointing premiere.

To me it seemed like all of that stuff really happened. The daughter actually writing the note, but forgetting about it afterwards. It was kind of glossed over how
his sister
got the note, just through a third party, maybe Moriarty or Magnussen through blackmail. The explanation for the villain confessing was that he needed to tell real people, like at the end when he said how good it feels to confess everything.
 
From tonight's episode -

I almost figured out the twist. I somehow guessed that the third Holmes was a female but I couldn't figure it out until Bam the twist was revealed.
 

Goodstyle

Member
I really got attached to Culverton Smith, I'm really sad that this is it for him. Also, I thought the twist to his daughter is that he killed and replaced her with someone that looked very similar, just to fuck over Sherlock and ruin her attempt to turn on him.
 
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