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Sherlock: The Abominable Bride |OT| 19th Century, My Dear Watson
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Ape Gone Insane
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Plot stayed exactly where it was before.
In the Sherlock Holmes stories Holmes and Moriarty fall to their deaths battling at a waterfall.
I loved it; far more so than I would have had it just been an episode in a different time period. I actually watched it through the BBC iPlayer, after it he aired and after I read the initial impressions. Due to the fact that I knew the jist, it seemed to make sense. Lots of subtleties.
In a strange way, the "fan-service" can be comfortably explained via the nature of the episode, though it does quite nicely reintroduce some of the key moments and intricacies of the last few seasons. Particularly useful for newcomers.
I fucking love Andrew Scott, by the way. He's always been the one presence that truly steals the scene away from Cumberbatch.
Fingers crossed season 4 isn't far away.
In a strange way, the "fan-service" can be comfortably explained via the nature of the episode, though it does quite nicely reintroduce some of the key moments and intricacies of the last few seasons. Particularly useful for newcomers.
I fucking love Andrew Scott, by the way. He's always been the one presence that truly steals the scene away from Cumberbatch.
Fingers crossed season 4 isn't far away.
Oh and I truly hope they come up with a plausibly rediculous way Moriarty could be still alive, even if Sherlock seems so sure he's not. I thought the scene in his apartment was heading towards a clue but I'm not sure.
The stream wouldn't stay going for me at all. I watched 2 minutes overall before giving up. Bad stuff.
PushTheButtonMax
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Can anyone tell me if PBS is going to rerun this immediately after? I'm in a hotel with no means to pull up a cable menu.
edit: pls
edit: pls
Zomba13
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Of course it'd be fanservice. The special just didn't need to tie in, especially when people will be able to jump into the next season without watching this and not missing anything. Like, by the end of the episode all that has happened in "our time" is that Sherlock has stepped off a plane and is certain Moriarty is actually dead.
I haven't read the story but I know about that. It still felt out of place and I did not quite understand why that scene was there and what it actually told us.
Maybe it becomes clearer for me during a rewatch.
bodyofanamerican
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I really love Andrew Scott so much.
I liked this special a lot more than I thought I was going to when we found out it was a throwback. If it hadn't
The long wait begins again.
tied in to the main series at all I probably would have been a bit disappointed. The little touches like John randomly being in 21st century clothing and Sherlock randomly commenting on 21st century things were interesting compared to the alternative of a straight old timey Sherlock tale.
The long wait begins again.
tonysidaway
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It does seem to have divided viewers. As a way to tie up loose ends from Series 3 it's quite good, and I welcomed the Series 3 framing device. I never believed we'd see Andrew Scott back, but this has provided a way to bring him back without reviving the series 1/2 Moriarty. That could be where it stays, but you never know.
Suppose Moriarty turns out to be an Amelia Ricoletti-style cipher. That would resolve a well known ambiguity about just how many Moriarty brothers there are in Conan Doyle. The reference to American secret societies could be a hint to the Molly Maguires. This is all off-piste for traditional Holmes, but with careful nurturing it might become a story in future now the seed has been planted.
Suppose Moriarty turns out to be an Amelia Ricoletti-style cipher. That would resolve a well known ambiguity about just how many Moriarty brothers there are in Conan Doyle. The reference to American secret societies could be a hint to the Molly Maguires. This is all off-piste for traditional Holmes, but with careful nurturing it might become a story in future now the seed has been planted.
bodyofanamerican
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TheZink
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when the episode ended it said January 10 is the encore.
Union Carbine
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Just finished watching. I liked it quite a bit-- that it tied into the present day didn't bother me. I thought they did a nice job connecting it all together.
I liked the waterfall sequence because it showed how Watson had become a part of Sherlock.
Seemed that way. It was intended to
give him a proper sendoff along with providing some Victorian era fanservice
PushTheButtonMax
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Thank you.
Pilgrimzero
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So good! And it had my favorite character in it!
Now the long wait for more Sherlock! Ugh!
Now the long wait for more Sherlock! Ugh!
Skellig Gra
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I enjoyed it. It's not a pantheon episode but it's a perfect cheeky way to tie seasons 3 and 4 together. I wish Sherlock had gone in to more detail on how he faked his death.
Season 4 could be fucking amazing.
http://www.bustle.com/articles/3311...-third-holmes-brother-the-internet-braces-for
http://www.bustle.com/articles/3311...-third-holmes-brother-the-internet-braces-for
oh boy, fangirls squeaking will be heard from Uranus
bodyofanamerican
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Did Setlock not catch any of the
exterior shooting? That must have been one hell of an NDA the crew were under.
present-day
BrightLightLava
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I really enjoyed it. I liked season 3 too. The term "fan service" gets thrown at this show a lot, but it never really bothers me. I just want to watch Martin Freeman be flustered and loyal for an hour and a half and the show keeps that coming in spades.
I like that the episode wasn't just a one-off, what-if episode and actually ties into events leading into Series 4.
Looking forward to Series 4.
It got dark with Holmes' drug use and inner turmoil trying to come to grips with Moriarty's existence. Clearly he's been in Sherlock's head. I was almost ready to assume that the end of Series 3 was Sherlock imagining his return. Glad they didn't just scrap it all.
The other neat tie-up were the women. Coming to the realization that The Abominable Bride was all in his head, it made a lot of sense that Molly was imagined as a man, and only Watson could see her as a woman. The women in the clergy being people Sherlock encountered in the past (Molly, again, included) was a nice touch as well.
Finishing it off with Sherlock's acceptance of Moriarty's death, both in his head and in the real world ties things up nicely. Good sendoff for Andrew Scott.
The other neat tie-up were the women. Coming to the realization that The Abominable Bride was all in his head, it made a lot of sense that Molly was imagined as a man, and only Watson could see her as a woman. The women in the clergy being people Sherlock encountered in the past (Molly, again, included) was a nice touch as well.
Finishing it off with Sherlock's acceptance of Moriarty's death, both in his head and in the real world ties things up nicely. Good sendoff for Andrew Scott.
Looking forward to Series 4.
Hipster Cthulhu
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It was fine
I would have preferred it to just be a campy one-off episode opposed to be a 3 to 4 tie-in.
P.S. If Moriarty is dead then will Sherlock be fighting an AI?
P.S. If Moriarty is dead then will Sherlock be fighting an AI?
BrokenFiction
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Well, I thought that was bloody fantastic. The conceit of the episode really worked for me and I loved that it wasn't just a one-off show but actually bridged the events of S3 to S4. Can't wait to watch it again - so much to unpack.
All I have to say is...
But really, good episode, just started a bit too slow.
This cracked me up. I was thinking this the whole time.
bodyofanamerican
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Yes, exactly. Tonight was great.
dead souls
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I thoroughly enjoyed that.
It was a nice bit of imagery and I thought it played with some earlier dialog from
Moriarty
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