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Calverz
Member
Does any of this affect gameplay?
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
I'd wait and see whether "none of these are unlockable by playing" is actually true... that seems like data-miners over-reaching.
kingfey
Banned
Your history of Console Warring and baiting is growing tiring. Take a chill pill and go play some games.
whatever keeps you warm at night kid. You are the only that is been talking nonsense console talk.
This game is f2p. If you want the real halo, wait for the campaign one. and play that one. No one is forcing you to play this MP game.
also keep that chat of yours private. Or else, I would found your deep hatred for the game.
Pedro Motta
Member
well, they do sell you boosters to level up faster.
Chukhopops
Member
Halo 5: buy the game, play to get loot boxes, random chance to get the stuff you want or keep buying lootboxes
Halo Infinite: game is free, buy the set you want if you want it and move on.
I agree H5 had more content at launch but I fail to see how the new system is worse overall. H5 would usually give you one card pack per day + one per level up if I recall.
kingfey
Banned
You really havent played any real mobile game yet. These things here is much more gracious than whatever the fuck mobile games I used to test it out.
wipeout364
Member
Somebody should data mine league of legends and see what all the armor sets cost for that game. That might give some some frame of reference as to whether this is truly the outrage the OP is making it out to be.
01011001
Banned
Halo Infinite is not free, it's a full price game that has no multiplayer and launches without coop.
that is IMO a way more reasonable way to look at things.
in the past a full priced Halo title had a multiplayer with at least 10 maps, since H3 they came with dozens of unlockable cosmetics (hundreds starting with reach) and you could unlock all of them for free. Halo 5 showers you with free lootboxes.
so the situation now is that we still have a full price Halo title that misses all of that, and we have a free Halo title that has one of the worst free 2 play models out there while not even having half the content that older Halo multiplayer modes launched with day 1
VAVA Mk2
Member
They want to attract Fortnite/CoD players back.
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Oh trust me i've seen my my fair share. The only difference here is there's AAA quality game behind it. The monetization and progression is unquestionably mobile levels of bullshit
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DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I WANT EVERYTHING FOR FREE
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
You speak the truth, but the console warriors love to keep pushing this strawman argument of "they just want free shit" when in reality, we just want the same level of content, variety, and customization that has been afforded to us in every previous halo release. Hell, we don't even have the ability to freely change basic colours without spending hundreds of hours playing a tiny number of maps or spending hundreds of dollars.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
They never once mentioned anything like that. I don't even remember anyone else even thinking that
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
If you think I am a console warrior for either side you are sadly mistaken
Plus releasing a free game yet eyeing people as money bags?
To me you are just not making a lot of sense and just want to argue
If you are not happy with it vote with your wallet and move on, it doesn't do any good arguing with people who feel differently then you do on a forum
Hitchyhero
Banned
I was really looking forward to halo multiplayer but so far it's been meh for me. I'm suprised a lot of people are enjoying it as much as they are
- loading in to multiplayer takes a fairly long time compared to apex
- some people die instantly and some are bullet sponges
- I can't remember exactly, but I swear old school halo was more individual slayer (amongst other modes). I'm not a fan of 4v4. If one person drops out your at an instant disadvantage, and I'm not a fan of relying so heavily on team members that don't know how to play or bother with the objective. I can't tell you how many times I've already shouted at the screen when I've taken 3 or all 4 enemies down and still no one captures the other zones.
- loading in to multiplayer takes a fairly long time compared to apex
- some people die instantly and some are bullet sponges
- I can't remember exactly, but I swear old school halo was more individual slayer (amongst other modes). I'm not a fan of 4v4. If one person drops out your at an instant disadvantage, and I'm not a fan of relying so heavily on team members that don't know how to play or bother with the objective. I can't tell you how many times I've already shouted at the screen when I've taken 3 or all 4 enemies down and still no one captures the other zones.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
Seriously. I thought it was just me. I don't understand. I guess the guns are just that different.
Chukhopops
Member
- Halo Infinite MP is free to play, no matter how you twist and turn it. Having to buy the SP to play SP is irrelevant;
- Halo 2, 3 and 4 launched with 12, 11 and 12 maps respectively, "not even half the content" is bullshit like the rest of your post;
- Halo 5 never "showered you with free lootboxes", my recollection is one on first win of the day and one on leveling up but that's it (and they were not as good as the packs you could buy). Also with lootbox rarity you could play for months and never get the specific item you wanted;
I agree with you about coop and forge but it's not like you'll need to pay more later to unlock those, they're simply behind schedule. It's not a paywall situation.
Imagine making hyperbole such as "spending hundreds of dollars to change basic colours" and calling others console warriors, how full of it you'd have to be.
Exanthus
Banned
Varteras
Gold Member
For the cosmetics, I don't really think there is an issue here. You want them? Buy them. You don't want them? Don't buy them. The moment Halo Infinite's multiplayer was announced as F2P the writing was on the wall. This game was going to have tons of microtransactions involving, at least, cosmetics. Microsoft is not going to pass up a chance to make money. It doesn't affect gameplay. If they were selling weapons, vehicles, abilities, or levels/ranks... then yeah I could see outrage. You don't pay a penny to play the multiplayer and there is no actual detriment to you not doing so. You are only limited in how you can make them look. Your effectiveness in a match is purely on you. Not your wallet.
As for the campaign being a full priced game, well I suppose that all depends on how beefy the campaign is. I mean, we already have $70 games running around with no multiplayer or no campaign. I get it. We used to get that in previous Halo games. Understandable BUT the thing is you are not being charged for the multiplayer at all. So really, you could download both and it would be $60 to you regardless. As always, you can decide that's not worth it to you and just... not buy it? Or pick up Gamepass. Weren't they just doing a $1 for 4 months deal or something? If not just drop $10, play and beat the campaign in a month, and then unsub if you want. Saved you money.
As for the campaign being a full priced game, well I suppose that all depends on how beefy the campaign is. I mean, we already have $70 games running around with no multiplayer or no campaign. I get it. We used to get that in previous Halo games. Understandable BUT the thing is you are not being charged for the multiplayer at all. So really, you could download both and it would be $60 to you regardless. As always, you can decide that's not worth it to you and just... not buy it? Or pick up Gamepass. Weren't they just doing a $1 for 4 months deal or something? If not just drop $10, play and beat the campaign in a month, and then unsub if you want. Saved you money.
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SafeOrAlone
Banned
It's truly not worth getting upset about cosmetic unlocks when the game is free and of this high quality. Room for improvement, sure, but 343 is killing it overall right now.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Just don't buy them, it's literally that simple.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
There's nothing "free" about the content that comes with a $60 game though. You can say you don't pay extra, but they all are a part of the product you paid for.
I totally get not liking the F2P model, or what Infinite represents, etc. But if you want to be "reasonable" you can't call anything in a "full priced" game "free."
It all boils down to taste really; and I still would say "wait and see" to those thinking data miners are absolutely correct about what can/can't unlock w/o paying.
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Andodalf
Banned
So halo having incredible gameplay that Im has been universally liked, and is stable 3 weeks before it was supposed to launch, is bad because you don’t like the dress up ?
ManaByte
Member
Explain what GamePass has to do with a F2P game?
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Not sure if that poster was serious or not..
But I used to love how everyone used the "GamePass can only afford low budget games" arguments, from the same people that loved to harp on how they've spent $500 million developing Halo Infinite. I feel like I don't really hear that argument anymore, but it may have been them buying Bethesda that killed it.
Gravemind
Member
It's a free game. That's the model. They have to make money somehow, and this is it.
Doesn't really matter much to me to be honest. If it was pay to win, that would be a different story. I'll probably just dress up my barbie with whatever shit is in the battle pass. Maybe I'll buy something cool if I'm feeling horny, but I would honestly just play as the vanilla spartan if I had to.
Doesn't really matter much to me to be honest. If it was pay to win, that would be a different story. I'll probably just dress up my barbie with whatever shit is in the battle pass. Maybe I'll buy something cool if I'm feeling horny, but I would honestly just play as the vanilla spartan if I had to.
Draugoth
Gold Member
If you dont like getting items yeah, then it's probably one of the best games of the year and the best between Vanguard and 2042.
If you are a Halo fan that likes to unlock armor and run for achievements? Then it sucks Brute Balls.
MikeM
Member
Yep you’re right. My mistake.
Damigos
Member
Do i have to spell it? If a AAA game is free they have to make the money somewhere..so seasons cosmetics etc will be present.
Also development time energy money and ideas are lost in trying to find ways to monetize the game and design 1000 useless skins.
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ManaByte
Member
The game is F2P everywhere. It's free on Steam. There's no GP on Steam. So explain what GamePass has to do with the Steam version.
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Draugoth
Gold Member
The game is not on GP It's free to play, like Fortnite.
Damigos
Member
You ask for too many explanations. I am not google. Watch Jim Sterling, yong yea, skill up, easy allies and you ll learn the downsides of f2p and monetizations. A legendary game like Halo shouldnt have taken this path
ManaByte
Member
Seems to be doing better than this year's Battlefield or Call of Duty, so I guess they made the right decision.
And I don't need to listen to attention whore YouTubers shilling outrage for money. I actually play games to form an opinion on them.
You still haven't explained what GamePass has to do with a F2P game that doesn't require GamePass to access.
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manfestival
Member
Why can't I make my gun pink for free?! NOOOOOO I WANT MUH FREE SKINS THAT ARENT TRASH! AGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH
Damigos
Member
Free. Not on GP. Fixed it
ZehDon
Gold Member
As long as these macro-transactions don't affect the gameplay at all in any way, 343i can add $10,000 worth of purchasable cosmetics for all I care. I might buy one if I thinks really cool, but the rest of it I'll just get through the Battle Pass and call it a day. I really don't need to get every cosmetic piece in a game for me to enjoy the game.
Andodalf
Banned
You can still get achievements, and there’s literally nothing to indicate that we won’t be getting armor from the classic things like beating the campaign in different difficulties.
ManaByte
Member
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Then be happy that other people fund the game for you.
It can't be anything but a win win for everyone.
Codes 208
Member
Dont even need to go that far: fortnite exists on consoles.
plus apex, warzone, mw19 through vanguard, etc
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