ChuckeRearmed
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Well, we still have DLC in the future
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Phillip W. Spencer III:Starfield has now over 12m players since it's launch
twilo99
Member
It would depend on how much development they are going to put into it in the next 2-3 years, the DLC, and also of course .. mods.
Enough people like the game to where it will have its own little bubble for a very, very long time.
UltimaKilo
Gold Member
Do modern video gamers really revisit games like that? I finish a game and never look at it again.
Negotiator101
Member
The modding potential is insane, its an enormous game.
twilo99
Member
I'm the same way, but these Bethesda RPGs have a rather unique audience, or so it seems anyway.. I guess we will see how this one holds up
twilo99
Member
See, its people like you who appreciate that aspect who would keep this thing alive I think.. the game has A LOT to offer
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UltimaKilo
Gold Member
If they ever make Starfield VR, I’ll revisit the game. I put over 100 hours into it. I think that’s enough
semiconscious
Member
i'm so old that i remember back to when 'being engaged' was like this state of existence between 'going steady' & 'marriage'...
00Magnum Gaming
Member
Starfield has an estimated 250,000 players playing rn. It oscillates but this is the average since launch. Alot of people keep using Steam numbers to justify their bs talking points as if the game is solely on Steam. Live player counters are the way to go. These counters are akin to Vgchartz. Active player in my years of experience is the best that ive come across.
twilo99
Member
If they ever make Starfield VR, I’ll revisit the game. I put over 100 hours into it. I think that’s enough
But even 100hrs is quite good..
would you go back to it if you see a mod that you like?
I've played it for about 50hrs I think and I play a bit every week, but I just don't enjoy single player games as much as I do multiplayer so that's where the majority of my times goes.
I also think that the game is wayyy to tame... its like playing a pg13 rated game, so hopefully some mods can get me a fix for that
Shakka43
Member
DaleinCalgary
Member
Okay the game isn't good. Can we stop talking about it?
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Naw it's got even less potential than F4.
Klayzer
Member
Phil thinks otherwise. He has to comment on any and everything.
Thirty7ven
Banned
I’m one of the new. Played for six hours, around that. I will go back to it and give it another spin but so far my experience has been one of absolute bemusement, it plays like a game from generations ago.
yazenov
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twilo99
Member
A lot of people seems to be using steam for CoD as well which makes little sense to me since I think that's the launcher with the least amount of players
Mibu no ookami
Member
The defense of this game is unparalleled only because its fate is so tied to GamePass and Xbox.
People are talking about Steam because it is verifiable and accurate data. The game has mixed reviews on Steam by verified purchasers. The game has poor Steam player counts.
That isn't to say people aren't playing this on GamePass, but that's not the measure of success. The measure of success as it pertains to GamePass is new subscribers and sustained subscribers above average (MoM and YoY). The fact that Microsoft wasn't in a rush to say here is how many new GamePass subscribers let alone here is the total, tells you everything you need to know.
The game failed to sell hardware, it failed to stay on the charts, but yes... it's secretly driving massive gamepass numbers that microsoft is keeping to themselves...
Everything we can see for ourselves bad... but everthing else? Explosive and epic success.
Mibu no ookami
Member
This is why I always try to get these people on the record.
DirtyBast8rd
Member
Glad to say I'm not one of those 12mil.
yazenov
Member
Notice he was expecting 20 million sales. But I guess Starfield will struggle to even reach those numbers. (By reach, I mean engagement, not sales since people are mixing those two entirely separate terms)
But they will act like these 12 million engagement numbers are somehow impressive. It's not.
Bernoulli
M2 slut
I just binged ‘the invincible’, the 12 hours I spent in that relatively low budget indie were more memorable, with a much more intriguing sci fi mystery, with a far better told story, writing and characters, and to be honest at times better visuals. Its “empty singular planet” made me feel small amid the wonders of the universe without its world being “boring”. The 30+ hours I spent with starfield left me feeling…nothing…oh and sleepy, as I literally fell asleep playing it several times. I told myself I’d go back to it after I dropped it for Alan wake 2… but both Alan wake, which was excellent, followed by the thematically similar invincible, by comparison have allowed me to reflect, and honestly I doubt I’ll return to starfield, which is really sad given I’ve loved their past games and they are so rare these days.
On that note. Anyone who likes a sci fi story, and likes games like firewatch, you should play the invincible.
On that note. Anyone who likes a sci fi story, and likes games like firewatch, you should play the invincible.
Bernoulli
M2 slut
VideoGameEnjoyer
Member
Microsoft/Bethesda didn’t say that it was one of the most important RPGs of all time?
ShadyAcshuns
Member
It's every companies job to promote their product, but it's up to the consumer to not be fooled by that shit.
demigod
Member
Oh now we blaming the media. The same xbox medias that gave the scores 9s and 10s. It’s always someone else’s fault and not xbox management amirite?
Crayon
Member
It's just another metric and it's harmless. Even useful, in its way. The relationship to real sales is murky though, and they are two very different things. So ms can throw out these numbers and nobody fully knows what they mean.
That aside, didn't they forecast 10m sales for a PS5 release? Spencer is dumb as hell. Read the emails. His judgement is clouded by fanboy-like emotions. The game didn't turn out that good but regardless of the quality, they chopped the sales down to at least half. Probably much further considering clicking to download for $0 is different from paying $70 for the exact same thing. $700,000,000 and 10,000,000 more heads for your 'played' metric. Poof, gone.
That aside, didn't they forecast 10m sales for a PS5 release? Spencer is dumb as hell. Read the emails. His judgement is clouded by fanboy-like emotions. The game didn't turn out that good but regardless of the quality, they chopped the sales down to at least half. Probably much further considering clicking to download for $0 is different from paying $70 for the exact same thing. $700,000,000 and 10,000,000 more heads for your 'played' metric. Poof, gone.
Klayzer
Member
I'm curious how many actual units it moved. At least half of those twelve million players could be sales.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
The game was hyped as one of the biggest games of the generation. Xbox fans were throwing this in the face of PlayStation fans.
This is about facing consequences.
demigod
Member
No announcements on 5-10 million milestones so I doubt it even sold 5 mil.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Forza Horizon 5 Passes 15 Million Players In Two Months
Microsoft's racing game continues to build momentum.
www.gamespot.com
I said a few months ago that Starfield was behind Forza Horizon 5 in player count.
It took 3 months to reach 12 million players while it took Forza 5 2 months to reach 15 million players.
Lions Gate
Banned
this guy needs to stfu
VideoGameEnjoyer
Member
So they did over-hype it.
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Klayzer
Member
Less than 5 mil would be a disaster. IMO
UltimaKilo
Gold Member
I probably would not revisit it. To me, it’s done. I also struggle with single player games. I don’t have time to sit around for hours upon hours anymore, and if I did, I want to go out and do stuff!
I can't breath, need oxygen.
My only take away is the usual useless metric and how much money they willinginly left on the table from box sales. Shareholders and the board members should be furious.
Where is the growth if gamepass is remaining steady. They got 1 month from me, then I promptly cancelled.
#BRINGBACKDON
My only take away is the usual useless metric and how much money they willinginly left on the table from box sales. Shareholders and the board members should be furious.
Where is the growth if gamepass is remaining steady. They got 1 month from me, then I promptly cancelled.
#BRINGBACKDON
ReBurn
Gold Member
And someone has to immediately rush to create a post about every thing he says. People seem to hang on his every word. Obviously they love it.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Do you like work in business market analytics or something? What are you basing your take on
I’d like to know from an actual expert
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Mibu no ookami
Member
Skyrim sold 10 million units in a month. Fallout 4 did 12 million in one day.
It's not going to experience growth. Anyone who could have played it on GamePass, would have by now. It's not selling on steam or XBS. That's why Bethesda is doing cringe responses on Steam as if that was going to be a successful community campaign.
A lot of people will say, well this was a new IP... it almost certainly was the most expensive game Bethesda has every produced.
What's worse is the reputational damage they've done.
That being said, comeback stories are a thing. They could put a lot of work into the game like Cyberpunk, but for that to happen people really need to acknowledge that it was a disaster first and push Bethesda to fix things.
There were people who defended cyberpunk, but the vast majority knew it was a faulty product. We've largely ignored the PS4 and X1 versions, but that's another story.
Pelta88
Member
He doesn't engage or debate in good faith so I blocked him months ago.
I completely agree with you, he's a lost cause.
semiconscious
Member
well, what other exclusive, big-budget, triple-a, released this year xbox title do you suggest we do talk about?... c'mon, i'm waiting...
Gavon West
Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
False. Stop lying. Jesus Christ. Anything to be over dramatic.
Seriously. If anyone thought ONE GAME would overthrow Sony and Nintendo, it's your own fault for being so gullible. Starfield is doing really well for a brand new IP and even better going up against well established titan IPs, it did great. You dont have to agree but to call it a flop is 3rd degree delusion.
ShadowkillXNA
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