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[AtomicStarving]

Why not Immersive sim, OOF

 

[Majormaxxx]

I agree with all your points. And the story sounds legit. It's reflected in actual real world historical sites that are at the same latitude.

That studio is very woke and yes they screwed up second Wolfenstein game with their politics, but this game's plot was written By Todd Howard so they probably won't have much influence over the game's direction. It's basically a game Todd wanted to make for 20+ years. However I would have preferred 3rd person and visually the game just isn't impressive. Animations also look somewhat stiff.

 

[bender]

Also, why are people worried about Machine Games making a first person title?

They’re pretty good at it…

I'm in the minority but I really didn't care for their Wolfenstein games.

 

[ManaByte]

Looked ok.

Sold my Series X already, but if it ever comes to PS5 I'll try it.

Is this just a timed Xbox exclusive that could eventually come to playstation? Or a proper Xbox exclusive? My PS5 is telling me it‘ll want to play this.

 

[Poppyseed]

Seems pretty mediocre.

Graphics are hit and miss, animations are sub-par and gameplay looks basic and boring.

A whole lot of Harrison Ford uncanny valley. Both visuals and audio. Doesn’t sit well with me.

 

[adamsapple]

Can't wait to punch some nazi's in the face.

 

[chonga]

You seem salty for some reason. Maybe I missed something but there’s about 10 sec of footage and you act like you’ve seen it all.

I notice you pick the first negative comment to give that reply to.

Why did you not reply to any of the, earlier, positive comments?

After all if what they've seen is not enough to justify coming to an opinion, that applies for both saying it looks bad, and saying it looks good.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Why?

Play the Robocop game, you won't think that way afterward.

I don't think so.

but again. look at what the "cinematic director" was talking about. she contradict herself almost immediatey.

you cannot have a FPS game ("you are indy") with Third Person Passive cutscenes. (you are not controlling indy)..not anymore after what uncharted and tomb raider have accomplished.

If there is a set piece which is a cutscene due to the need to sell a "cinematic narrative" but then you are only playing in a first person view... its going to feel outdated, subpar, jarring to the whole (you are indiy and the First Person is more immersive). it's going to take you alout of the experience.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

It was perfectly alright.

But it's far from any sort of system seller. Visually, not only Uncharted 4, but Wolf TNC looking head and sholders above what was shown.

 

[Mister Wolf]

It's a studio who makes nothing but first person games, and even still some folks need to convey how disappointed they are that it isn't a third person game

Blade is third person. Arkane has only ever made first person games.

 

[rsouzadk]

Not gonna lie, i liked it a lot!

They got me interested.

 

[Chuck Berry]

Doesn't look that great but might be fun.

 

[adamsapple]

I don't think so.

but again. look at what the "cinematic director" was talking about. she contradict herself almost immediatey.

you cannot have a FPS game ("you are indy") with Third Person Passive cutscenes. (you are not controlling indy)..not anymore after what uncharted and tomb raider have accomplished.

If there is a set piece which is a cutscene due to the need to sell a "cinematic narrative" but then you are only playing in a first person view... its going to feel outdated, subpar, jarring to the whole (you are indiy and the First Person is more immersive). it's going to take you alout of the experience.

The fuck are you talking about Choro lol, tons of first person games do third person cut-scenes.

 

[Xtib81]

Looks low budget

 

[THE DUCK]

Game looks amazing, if it wasn't on pc too would help sell more xboxes.

 

[SlimySnake]

Then they try to dress it up with the "make you feel like Indiana" bullshit. No, it's your lack of confidence in your ability to make a third person game.

Bingo. Dont make an indiana jones game if you cant make third person games. plain and simple. Say no and keep making immersive sims.

They ruined Avatar by making everything including the cutscenes first person, and now they are going after Indy. Imagine Spiderman in first person. Or Wolverine. Or that EA Black Panther game. This is all so dumb. Amateurs. all of them.

 

[Laptop1991]

I like it's first person and the whip is great and i also really like you have a choice how to do mission's like Arkane use to do with Dishonored.

 

[dcx4610]

Sadly, I just don't think this generation cares about Indiana Jones. The movie was a flop and even the 40+ year olds didn't care for it.

I think the game looks pretty fun but I just can't see it appealing to anyone outside of the 40+ year old crowd.

 

[dem]

Not an FPS

Its an FPW

 

[BlackTron]

Also, why are people worried about Machine Games making a first person title?

They’re pretty good at it…

They are probably the best choice to make a first person Indy game. People are just worried about getting a first person Indy regardless of studio because they don't think that's the best choice. Let's give the Sonic IP to Doom developers. Why be worried? They're GREAT at first-person!

Seriously though, I think we will get a solid game out of this and that's fine. I think we'll also have a massive missed opportunity for what could have been an alternative Indy experience to heal from the last movie. The game could be outstanding and it wouldn't do much for the Indy IP. The definitive part of the IP, Indy himself, isn't even on the screen. I know opinions are varied here, mine is that this is a mistake and relegates the game to the massive pile of meh decisions that plagues everything Xbox. Cool it will be on Steam though.

Also, the name is super lame. As soon as I saw it, I was like, really? Great Circle? The name of my friends street. lol

 

[Darkmakaimura]

We walk from here!

 

[rofif]

 

[Godot25]

Fuck yes.

I was afraid that they would make Uncharted/Tomb Raider clone so I'm glad MachineGames have gone with their guts and legacy (since many of them worked at Starbreeze on Butcher's Bay). Outside of some graphical kinks (game uses same engine as Doom eternal so characters are not 100% visually), I'm pretty excited.

 

[THE DUCK]

Looks low budget

Guessing you've never watched a Jones movie or haven't watched one in 30 years or you would realize capturing the essence of the movies means the game will be a bit of that cheesy 80's movie.

 

[Gudji]

 

[Stuart360]

I don't think so.

but again. look at what the "cinematic director" was talking about. she contradict herself almost immediatey.

you cannot have a FPS game ("you are indy") with Third Person Passive cutscenes. (you are not controlling indy)..not anymore after what uncharted and tomb raider have accomplished.

If there is a set piece which is a cutscene due to the need to sell a "cinematic narrative" but then you are only playing in a first person view... its going to feel outdated, subpar, jarring to the whole (you are indiy and the First Person is more immersive). it's going to take you alout of the experience.

Eh?, loads of FPS games have cutscenes. Including Machine Games own Woldenstein games.

Certain people really are trying their hardest with this game lol.

 

[Edder1]

I agree with all your points. And the story sounds legit. It's reflected in actual real world historical sites that are at the same latitude.

Totally agree, the story and characters look interesting, as well as varied locations. The game will live and die by how it handles combat in first person and also puzzles. Going by the trailer I'm still not sold on gameplay yet. I'm sure the story will be a banger. Despite Starfield I still think Todd Howard can write an engaging story and memorable characters, plus he had a long time to sit on this and make it the best it can be. I trust him much more than MachineGames.

 

[TrebleShot]

Looks really good to me, hope its a shorter game with some exploration

 

[soulbait]

Many of you must not have played Escape from Butcher Bay.

I am stoked for this.

 

[gtabro]

Omg guys I FOUND IT ALRADY

Spoiler: 700 IQ revelation

yeah I'm bored...

 

[Sephimoth]

Hope these types didn't have any say on the story

 

[Stuart360]

Bingo. Dont make an indiana jones game if you cant make third person games. plain and simple. Say no and keep making immersive sims.

They ruined Avatar by making everything including the cutscenes first person, and now they are going after Indy. Imagine Spiderman in first person. Or Wolverine. Or that EA Black Panther game. This is all so dumb. Amateurs. all of them.

Swinging through the city in first person would be pretty awesome actually.

 

[Ozriel]

I don't think so.

but again. look at what the "cinematic director" was talking about. she contradict herself almost immediatey.

you cannot have a FPS game ("you are indy") with Third Person Passive cutscenes. (you are not controlling indy)..not anymore after what uncharted and tomb raider have accomplished.

If there is a set piece which is a cutscene due to the need to sell a "cinematic narrative" but then you are only playing in a first person view... its going to feel outdated, subpar, jarring to the whole (you are indiy and the First Person is more immersive). it's going to take you alout of the experience.

I can understand being disappointed in it being first person for people who wanted it to be more like an Uncharted type game.
That’s kinda what I —and lots of other people - wanted prior to the show.

But your commentary about the perspective being ‘outdated’, ‘subpar’ and ‘jarring’ just seems like you’re grasping at straws and certainly don’t seem valid at all.

 

[Withnail]

It looks comically bad. Presumably first person because they don’t have the real-time animation tech to make it third person. What a poor use of the IP.

 

[MrTroubleMaker]

Thanks Harrison for that scene. He hurt himself the day before and could not do a fight scene, so he said, let me just shoot the bad guy ...lol

 

[Mr Hyde]

Best game of the show. Day 1.

 

[Mister Wolf]

Bingo. Dont make an indiana jones game if you cant make third person games. plain and simple. Say no and keep making immersive sims.

They ruined Avatar by making everything including the cutscenes first person, and now they are going after Indy. Imagine Spiderman in first person. Or Wolverine. Or that EA Black Panther game. This is all so dumb. Amateurs. all of them.

I'm glad Arkane had the balls to attempt surpassing their limitation of just making first person games. Whether it turns out good or bad I give them credit for trying since third person is obviously the right decision for a famous IP character game. Makes me respect Insomniac even more as they are capable of making both quality first person games and third person.

 

[MiguelItUp]

Honestly, I'm hyped AF. It gives me Butcher Bay vibes SO much, and it makes sense especially since Machinegames was started by ex-Starbreeze folks. So it's almost like it's going full circle.

I thought it would've been cool to have something in third person or something that could alternate, but I know that Machinegames excels at first person. So, I'm not unhappy about it at all. I look forward to seeing more.

 

[Ristifer]

I don't think so.

but again. look at what the "cinematic director" was talking about. she contradict herself almost immediatey.

you cannot have a FPS game ("you are indy") with Third Person Passive cutscenes. (you are not controlling indy)..not anymore after what uncharted and tomb raider have accomplished.

If there is a set piece which is a cutscene due to the need to sell a "cinematic narrative" but then you are only playing in a first person view... its going to feel outdated, subpar, jarring to the whole (you are indiy and the First Person is more immersive). it's going to take you alout of the experience.

 

[Stuart360]

I can understand being disappointed in it being first person for people who wanted it to be more like an Uncharted type game.
That’s kinda what I —and lots of other people - wanted prior to the show.

But your commentary about the perspective being ‘outdated’, ‘subpar’ and ‘jarring’ just seems like you’re grasping at straws and certainly don’t seem valid at all.

They arent dissapointed.

 

[intheinbetween]

Looks low budget

Probably just the sound and music budget is higher than the whole budget of many other games

 

[Ozriel]

Bingo. Dont make an indiana jones game if you cant make third person games. plain and simple. Say no and keep making immersive sims.

They ruined Avatar by making everything including the cutscenes first person, and now they are going after Indy. Imagine Spiderman in first person. Or Wolverine. Or that EA Black Panther game. This is all so dumb. Amateurs. all of them.

I remember some people getting upset at a first person Cyberpunk 2077. And look how that turned out.

Nobody accused CDPR of ‘cowardice’ or ‘amateurishness’ then.

 

[Nydius]

First person takes me completely out of it. I understand their idea is "you ARE Indiana Jones" but I didn't need to be in first person to feel like I was Nathan Drake, or Lara Croft, or Arthur Morgan, or John Marston -- just to name a few. As others have (rightfully) pointed out, being in first person takes away from a lot of the mystique of being Indiana Jones because first person looks and feels like any other bog standard FPS -- except with a whip.

A female investigative reporter that tags along for personal reasons that acts as the secondary protagionst? My, how original.

Watching what was made available today, it looks objectively worse than Uncharted 4 did in terms of both cutscenes and third person gameplay elements. That game is 8 years and a generation old.

At the end of the day, I'll end up playing it because it'll be on Game Pass but it wouldn't be a game I'd buy. This seems to be a trend with Microsoft's first party. They're games I'll play but only because they're on Game Pass. I'd be hard pressed to spend $70 on this day one.

 

[SantaC]

I'm convinced Naughty Dog is the ONLY dev that would have done this game justice.

The animations, art style, graphics, lighting, character models, etc. in Uncharted 4 still look leagues above any game out this gen.

Uncharted 4 is boring though. Atleast machinegames has some sense of humor.

 

[Jayjayhd34]

I really like what I'm seeing. I don't think the whip would looked as good in the third person so kind understand the decision.

 

[Xtib81]

Guessing you've never watched a Jones movie or haven't watched one in 30 years or you would realize capturing the essence of the movies means the game will be a bit of that cheesy 80's movie.

Indeed. But I'm simply refering to the visuals, animations and the few seconds of gameplay shown. It certainly doesn't scream AAA.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Swinging through the city in first person would be pretty awesome actually.

Doesn't PSVR have that Spiderman swinging game?

 

[rhodesianshepard]

I just don’t get the first person gameplay. The rest I was on board with.

It looks jarring and out of place. Seeing the way everything looks going from the cutscenes to the gameplay…the quality change is just jarring.

The world may look kinda nice, but the rest of the gameplay shown was average at best.

For a studio, It's asking a lot to go from 1st to 3rd person or vice versa. Most studios stay comfortably in one lane and perfect that formula. I wish we just got another Wolfenstein but few people bought the last one. Which is why Machinegames are working on an Indiana Jones game, hopefully it will sell much better

 

[Chuck Berry]

And he played Sam in Uncharted

Looks like Troy is coming FULL CIRCLE

 

[Moses85]

More Indi like than the two last movies …
Graphically it looks good, but I expected more. Somehow it seems washed out.