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So, all Bloodborne players who haven't played Souls before, how's it going?

ramyeon

Member
Since my last post, I've been trying and trying again to take thing down. Finally after more than an hour of failure after failure, I finally managed to take it down.


The chalice version has been continually kicking my butt lol

I've been wondering what the bone ash did since I have never used it but I guess it really powered up each of your shots (to be honest, I haven't read or paid much attention to all item descriptions, even on the load screen lol). My tinge level is low but since I had a whole bunch in storage I thought I'll follow your lead and use it too. It did way WAY less damage than any of your shots (of course since you had tinge level 40 I think it said in the video description and mine was only 20 lol) but any damage at all against that thing was good enough for me.

And yeah, when it did the jumping attack, it really was better to just stay put. Though there were a few times that I accidentally rolled forward after it did the jump and I became a pancake lol.

I seriously hate its final form where it takes off its arms, it is hard to get close to the arms (that's the part that I usually attacked since to me it was easier to get to after it finished one of its attacks, in your video I saw that you always went for the head). I don't know why but near the end of my last battle, it just kept jumping and jumping. I guess it was because I just kept running far away from it haha. So I did what you said, stayed still, and have it jump on me. Then I figured out, I could land 1-2 hits on its head and then dodge behind it by rolling in between its legs to avoid that hand orb attack thing it does.

At least I'm now done with that reduced health chalice BS.
Nice work! Glad the video helped a bit. Bloodtinge is definitely important so far as dealing damage with the gun is concerned - using the Evelyn also helps a lot since it is a really efficient way of dealing damage (Much moreso than the Cannon imo). Coupled with Bone Marrow Ash it wrecks shit.

Standing still is definitely the best trick there, although it's hard since your instincts are telling you to get the hell out so you have to fight that and take your hands off the controller lol.

You're over the hill now as far as difficulty is concerned I guess. The first boss in Ihyll (Pthumerian Descendant) gave me a lot of grief but once I figured out his patterns it was pretty smooth sailing from then on in.
 
I've lurked for a while but I figure I'll add my 2 cents even though I beat Bloodborne back in April. I had rented DSII from Redbox and absolutely hated it. Combat was sluggish, there was no sense of direction, enemies were rage inducing. Just not a fun gaming experience for me. I played maybe 3 hours before I threw in the towel. Maybe I didn't give it a fair shot but whatever. So going into Bloodborne, I might as well have never played a Souls game. I was hesitant to play Bloodborne but from the insistence of a friend, I gave it a shot.

I must say looking back, this game grabbed me much faster right from the beginning than DSII. Granted, I did have someone to rely on as I got my feet wet with Bloodborne but overall, I wouldn't say the game was THAT hard. First boss took me a couple of tries. Father G was a bitch to the point where I ended up beating him in co-op. Just rage inducing for me having to go through that fireball trap over and over. Blood-Starved Beast was another that took me a while but eventually beat by myself. Vicar Amelia I ended up doing co-op. From there on out, I beat everything by myself, even the secret bosses. I must say, it can be quite thrilling hacking away at the last 25% health of a boss. I loved the weapon transformations. Ludwig's Sword in particular was OP. I don't think I would've like BB if they made it slower paced. I still take issues with essentially throwing the player in but I guess that comes with the territory. Overall, I'm glad I played it. It's probably my favorite PS4 game I own and something I'd recommend to people even if they didn't like the Souls games. I've yet to tackle most of the Chalice Dungeon stuff but I'm not sure I really want to. I got most of the achievements save for fighting one boss in particular and some item collection stuff. Here's to hoping the DLC is good.
 

max.renn

Neo Member
I've lurked for a while but I figure I'll add my 2 cents even though I beat Bloodborne back in April. I had rented DSII from Redbox and absolutely hated it. Combat was sluggish, there was no sense of direction, enemies were rage inducing. Just not a fun gaming experience for me. I played maybe 3 hours before I threw in the towel. Maybe I didn't give it a fair shot but whatever. So going into Bloodborne, I might as well have never played a Souls game. I was hesitant to play Bloodborne but from the insistence of a friend, I gave it a shot.

I must say looking back, this game grabbed me much faster right from the beginning than DSII. Granted, I did have someone to rely on as I got my feet wet with Bloodborne but overall, I wouldn't say the game was THAT hard. First boss took me a couple of tries. Father G was a bitch to the point where I ended up beating him in co-op. Just rage inducing for me having to go through that fireball trap over and over. Blood-Starved Beast was another that took me a while but eventually beat by myself. Vicar Amelia I ended up doing co-op. From there on out, I beat everything by myself, even the secret bosses. I must say, it can be quite thrilling hacking away at the last 25% health of a boss. I loved the weapon transformations. Ludwig's Sword in particular was OP. I don't think I would've like BB if they made it slower paced. I still take issues with essentially throwing the player in but I guess that comes with the territory. Overall, I'm glad I played it. It's probably my favorite PS4 game I own and something I'd recommend to people even if they didn't like the Souls games. I've yet to tackle most of the Chalice Dungeon stuff but I'm not sure I really want to. I got most of the achievements save for fighting one boss in particular and some item collection stuff. Here's to hoping the DLC is good.

I have the exact same feelings. I beat bloodborne within the first week and a half, absolutely loved it. Bought DSII couple weeks later, played it for about 3 hours and never picked it up again. Combat was no where near the level of perfection that was bloodborne and not having invincibility frames in dodges was such a bummer.
 

Hopeford

Member
Finished the game. Wow.
I made sure to have Snake Eater playing on Spotify during the Gherman fight because I'm an idiot. That was an awesome fight and better than the Moon fight after that in my opinion. My only complaint about the ending is that I think it was a little too easy, but I liked it a lot.
Time to sleep on the plot to see how much I understand it in the morning haha.

Definitely got me into the souls series. On to Demon Souls!
 
Finished the game. Wow.
I made sure to have Snake Eater playing on Spotify during the Gherman fight because I'm an idiot. That was an awesome fight and better than the Moon fight after that in my opinion. My only complaint about the ending is that I think it was a little too easy, but I liked it a lot.
Time to sleep on the plot to see how much I understand it in the morning haha.

Definitely got me into the souls series. On to Demon Souls!

I like Snake Eater, but you ruined it. Gehrman's music is beautiful.
 

Hopeford

Member
I like Snake Eater, but you ruined it. Gehrman's music is beautiful.

Oh yeah it was pretty good, I listened it to it the first three times, not like I killed him on my first try haha. Snake Eater came in on my fourth "alright I only have 5 blood vials I clearly am not going to win this so I'm just going to have fun with this" attempt.
 
So I just got this game used from Gamefly. After investing about 12 hours into it, I can definitely say that this game is my favorite of the year so far. I've never played a Souls game from From Software, but I can definitely see why people praise and love them.

Yes, there were plenty of times that I grew frustrated from relying on bad habits such as getting in one more swing without thinking of the repercussions from my enemies. I respect this game because 99% of the time your death is entirely your fault from impatience or the assumption that your enemy is stunned from your blows. You either didn't study your enemies' attacks before striking your blows or underestimated what a group of enemies can do when they surround you.

I've only just entered the woods, and I constantly feel like I'm walking on my tippy toes. Every path has a lingering threat, so you study your surroundings and proceed with caution, not haste. I have this mixed euphoria of dread and curiousity, wondering where the next path will lead me and if I'll meet me demise there. No hand-holding, no maps with goal points to direct you; just you, your intuition, hunger for exploration, and your steel. Awesomeness.
 

ramyeon

Member
Yes, there were plenty of times that I grew frustrated from relying on bad habits such as getting in one more swing without thinking of the repercussions from my enemies. I respect this game because 99% of the time your death is entirely your fault from impatience or the assumption that your enemy is stunned from your blows.
Yep, rule #1 is don't get greedy!
 

ramyeon

Member
I need some serious tips for martyr lagarius. I'm getting no where near him. Has anyone in this thread beaten him using a two handed weapon?
In his first phase you need to be dodging towards him and sticking close to him so his magic can't hit you. When he does the attack that creates a giant skull that blows up he'll jump backwards from it - you need to dodge quickly towards him to avoid being hit by the explosion and you can get attacks off safely then too.

When he does his charge up move before entering phase 2 you want to get behind him and backstab him to force him out of it. If you don't do this it's not the end of the world (I couldn't do it since he was up against the wall and I still won) but it means during his second phase your bullets will sometimes have no effect on him. This is important because he's really easy to parry and get visceral attacks off on during phase 2.

So for phase 2 you want to be parrying his regular swipes - when he leaps into the air and you can still see him you want to quickly dodge to the right and he'll swoop down and not be able to hit you. When he leaps up and you can't see him (Your lock on will unlock I believe) you want to just move out of the way of his attack - this is pretty easy to dodge.

When he puts his sword into the ground you want to attack it to stop the cloud of swords from appearing. Don't rush to do this. If you rush in you're going to get hit by the shockwave or open yourself up for him to attack you. The swords do trivial damage in the short term so wait for a good opening to get in there.

His patterns are really logical and easy to dodge - just take some time to memorise his tells and how to deal with them.
 

laxu

Member
I need some serious tips for martyr lagarius. I'm getting no where near him. Has anyone in this thread beaten him using a two handed weapon?

You want something fast because you'll usually only get a few hits in at most before he tries to escape or summons that exploding skull. Ludwig Blade did the trick for me so I suppose Kirkhammer or Threaded Cane would be good too.
 
Yep, rule #1 is don't get greedy!

Was a hard habit to break, especially from other titles that are more lenient with the damage your enemies can output while counterattacking. You had assurance that the enemy won't wipe you out within the next one or two blows, so you were willing to risk receiving additional damage to kill them quicker. Aka button mashing...lol. That's certainly not that case in Bloodborne nor any Souls titles for that matter...haha.
 
In his first phase you need to be dodging towards him and sticking close to him so his magic can't hit you. When he does the attack that creates a giant skull that blows up he'll jump backwards from it - you need to dodge quickly towards him to avoid being hit by the explosion and you can get attacks off safely then too.

When he does his charge up move before entering phase 2 you want to get behind him and backstab him to force him out of it. If you don't do this it's not the end of the world (I couldn't do it since he was up against the wall and I still won) but it means during his second phase your bullets will sometimes have no effect on him. This is important because he's really easy to parry and get visceral attacks off on during phase 2.

So for phase 2 you want to be parrying his regular swipes - when he leaps into the air and you can still see him you want to quickly dodge to the right and he'll swoop down and not be able to hit you. When he leaps up and you can't see him (Your lock on will unlock I believe) you want to just move out of the way of his attack - this is pretty easy to dodge.

When he puts his sword into the ground you want to attack it to stop the cloud of swords from appearing. Don't rush to do this. If you rush in you're going to get hit by the shockwave or open yourself up for him to attack you. The swords do trivial damage in the short term so wait for a good opening to get in there.

His patterns are really logical and easy to dodge - just take some time to memorise his tells and how to deal with them.

he is so fast in that second phase, i couldn't counter his melee attacks. When he goes into the air i have no idea how to read that. He seemed to hit me every time he did that.

If i'm reading this right there are 2 different arial attacks in the second phase??
 

ramyeon

Member
he is so fast in that second phase. I could read his melee attacks. When he goes into the air i have no idea how to read that. He seemed to hit me every time he did that.

If i'm reading this right there are 2 different arial attacks in the second phase??
Correct, the first he'll go up and swoop down - all you need to do is roll to the right as he swoops to dodge it. The second he'll go up and you'll lose your lock on him - you just need to keep moving and he'll come straight down with an attack as he drops. They're both fairly simple to dodge.
 
I had a lot of trouble with Martyr Logarius.

Definitely parry his slow melee attacks if you can, but its safer to keep rolling and try get a hit or two behind him. Takes some practice of course to learn his animations and how to dodge those, so try and learn something new each attempt.

The aerial swoop he does i would roll at the last minute to avoid, but it definitely got me a few times.
 
he is so fast in that second phase, i couldn't counter his melee attacks. When he goes into the air i have no idea how to read that. He seemed to hit me every time he did that.

If i'm reading this right there are 2 different arial attacks in the second phase??

A couple nights ago I fought Logarius on my second playthrough. I think that when he did the swoop attack I moved toward him so it would overshoot me a little bit and then did a dodge backward as he attacked, so I would end up right next to him to get some hits in.

However, I might have just gotten lucky because I also somehow avoided him buffing himself. I think it was because I would back him up against a wall and then dodge his skull attacks until he would melee, which I would parry and visceral, then repeat. Now that I think about it, I should have saved a video because now I don't remember some of the finer details.
 

-Horizon-

Member
Nice work! Glad the video helped a bit. Bloodtinge is definitely important so far as dealing damage with the gun is concerned - using the Evelyn also helps a lot since it is a really efficient way of dealing damage (Much moreso than the Cannon imo). Coupled with Bone Marrow Ash it wrecks shit.

Standing still is definitely the best trick there, although it's hard since your instincts are telling you to get the hell out so you have to fight that and take your hands off the controller lol.

You're over the hill now as far as difficulty is concerned I guess. The first boss in Ihyll (Pthumerian Descendant) gave me a lot of grief but once I figured out his patterns it was pretty smooth sailing from then on in.

Oh my god, you weren't kidding with that boss lol

I could not parry it reliably at all. And when I do parry it, I think that I don't so I dodge on reflex and don't get the visceral :/

Ugh, I don't know how many tries it took till I beat it, felt like the same amount of tries as Amy yesterday -.-

Even at the end, I only won because I just ran away and kept shooting at it from a distance. I had no vials left so running in wasn't a good idea for me lol. But then it jumped at me and I somehow managed to roll away and gave it the last few whacks to beat it. Less than half health left too D:

I'll try the second floor tomorrow.
 

ramyeon

Member
Oh my god, you weren't kidding with that boss lol

I could not parry it reliably at all. And when I do parry it, I think that I don't so I dodge on reflex and don't get the visceral :/

Ugh, I don't know how many tries it took till I beat it, felt like the same amount of tries as Amy yesterday -.-

Even at the end, I only won because I just ran away and kept shooting at it from a distance. I had no vials left so running in wasn't a good idea for me lol. But then it jumped at me and I somehow managed to roll away and gave it the last few whacks to beat it. Less than half health left too D:

I'll try the second floor tomorrow.
Yeah he's a pain in the arse and hits like a truck to boot. I wasn't having any luck parrying him (Especially in his first phase) either, ended up dodging towards his attacks and then trying to parry him on his second phase since it was more difficult to get close to and a bit more predictable.
 

-Horizon-

Member
Yeah he's a pain in the arse and hits like a truck to boot. I wasn't having any luck parrying him (Especially in his first phase) either, ended up dodging towards his attacks and then trying to parry him on his second phase since it was more difficult to get close to and a bit more predictable.
Your match looks so much better than how I went about things lol.

I still could not time my shots right even on its second phase. Always too slow, too fast, or already way too close.
I can't count the number of times I tried shooting at it only to get locked into its combo attacks and then just desperately trying to dodge away. That's why I gave up and just kept shooting regardless to get its life bar down as much as I could.

And your video just reminds me that I hate how the lock on just gives up because of an enemy jump attack. I can understand the lock on breaking if you're too far away or if a wall gets between you. But a jump attack? C'mon.
 

ramyeon

Member
Your match looks so much better than how I went about things lol.

I still could not time my shots right even on its second phase. Always too slow, too fast, or already way too close.
I can't count the number of times I tried shooting at it only to get locked into its combo attacks and then just desperately trying to dodge away. That's why I gave up and just kept shooting regardless to get its life bar down as much as I could.

And your video just reminds me that I hate how the lock on just gives up because of an enemy jump attack. I can understand the lock on breaking if you're too far away or if a wall gets between you. But a jump attack? C'mon.
His second phase is deadly, I can't count the number of times he locked me into a combo and took me from full health to dead :/ and yeah the lock on being lost sometimes when enemies leap up is annoying as hell, screwed me up a couple of times in that fight.

Some people find the next boss harder, I found it significantly easier. My tip is not to lock on at all for him while you're close since it just makes it difficult to see what's going on.
 
Lagarius is dead. I have no idea why I struggled with this guy. I think I used about 4 viles in the fight and I stuck with my 2 handed approach. I think this thread showed me the way. His second phase was a cake walk
 

Mesoian

Member
I'm done.

Lost 65k souls on the hooded assholes in the forest.

finally beat them.

Lose 26k souls immediately after to what seems to be a regular enemy that one hit kills you.

Nope. That shit sucks. i'm out.

Edit: Oh look, Rom is directly after this. Who designed this cooridor? Two extremely difficult bosses bookended by 1 hit kill mobs?
 
I'm done.

Lost 65k souls on the hooded assholes in the forest.

finally beat them.

Lose 26k souls immediately after to what seems to be a regular enemy that one hit kills you.

Nope. That shit sucks. i'm out.

Edit: Oh look, Rom is directly after this. Who designed this cooridor? Two extremely difficult bosses bookended by 1 hit kill mobs?

Unlock the lecture theatre you can get those 65k back in 10 to 15 minutes.

Also never go into a boss fight with echoes. It's so telegraphed when they're coming up
 
So I guess Ill update my progress.

Played the game for a few hours today and beat Father Gascone. It took about 4 attempts I think because I kept getting caught up on tombstones. I only ever saw his final form when I beat him. I got to the part with the guy shooting the mounted gun at you and died somewhere around there and had to take a break.

The game is getting a bit better for me. I think Im kinda getting the hang of how things work but there are still big problems in this game that I feel people tend to gloss over, worst of all is the camera. Can we just accept that the camera fucking sucks in this game? One on one with regular sized enemies, its fine but when you start fighting the Cleric Beast or start getting groups of guys attacking you it turns into a total cluster. It feels cheap when I die and it feels like its not because of the enemy, but because I couldnt manage the camera.
 

Morrigan Stark

Arrogant Smirk
I'm done.

Lost 65k souls on the hooded assholes in the forest.

finally beat them.

Lose 26k souls immediately after to what seems to be a regular enemy that one hit kills you.

Nope. That shit sucks. i'm out.
Ok, bye. But before you rage quit, care to tell us why you didn't use the lamp and spend your echoes?
 

Sayter

Member
I finished the game and started NG+. But after a while I just wasn't into it. Even at level 107 it's just too frustration at times.

I started playing Arkham Knight. Now this is why I got a ps4. I should've started with that game first.
 
So I've returned back to Bloodborne after months off. I ended up spending all day grinding in Old Yharnam. Trying and trying to down Djura. But I couldn't pull it off. But finally I way able to knock him off and end his bullet reign of terror. By far the hardest part of the game for me so far. Stupid Hunter
 

Mesoian

Member
Ok, bye. But before you rage quit, care to tell us why you didn't use the lamp and spend your echoes?

The forest is weird because it's so vast and so open, yet there is 1 actual lamp post for the entire area. Considering the point of the area is to get lost, it's really confusing why they bothered doing that, especially when all of the shortcuts are elevators which lead to elevators which lead to elevators which leads to the first lamp post. This decision is made all the more baffling by the fact that when you do beat the hooded assholes and unlock their lamp post, there is another lamp post not 30 steps away for the next area.

So the answer is, because I had no idea where it was in conjunction with the area until they were already gone. And yes, that is my fault. It doesn't make it any less frustrating.

I find when stuff like this happens, you just have to shut the game off for a few days so that sting goes away entirely.

But hey, that was a fun hunter fight inside the house where Rom is. Part of me wants to go fuck up that asshole on the cliff who stole all my souls with one stupid magic attack spam, but it's probably not even worth the time and effort.

I should just burn all my bloodshards and level up before trying Rom again. Got him halfway and then he rolled over me and it one shotted me.
 
So I guess Ill update my progress.

Played the game for a few hours today and beat Father Gascone. It took about 4 attempts I think because I kept getting caught up on tombstones. I only ever saw his final form when I beat him. I got to the part with the guy shooting the mounted gun at you and died somewhere around there and had to take a break.

The game is getting a bit better for me. I think Im kinda getting the hang of how things work but there are still big problems in this game that I feel people tend to gloss over, worst of all is the camera. Can we just accept that the camera fucking sucks in this game?

Camera never gave me too much problems. Just don't lock on to enemies that jump all over the place.
 

Morrigan Stark

Arrogant Smirk
The forest is weird because it's so vast and so open, yet there is 1 actual lamp post for the entire area. Considering the point of the area is to get lost, it's really confusing why they bothered doing that, especially when all of the shortcuts are elevators which lead to elevators which lead to elevators which leads to the first lamp post. This decision is made all the more baffling by the fact that when you do beat the hooded assholes and unlock their lamp post, there is another lamp post not 30 steps away for the next area.
Yeah, the forest is vast, but there are two shortcuts, I used both to return to the lamp and spend my souls every time, then I headed to the boss. Not that it mattered because the Shadows are surprisingly easy compared to the level, but you're damn right it's your fault. Plus every boss spawns a lamp right after you defeat them so you can spend the echoes they give you.

I should just burn all my bloodshards and level up before trying Rom again. Got him halfway and then he rolled over me and it one shotted me.
Ya think?

Spent like 15 tries on that damn defiled dog before beating him. Is his kamikaze attack dodgeable?
Of course. Stick to the right (of you, his left side), when he charges he'll likely whiff even if you don't dodge in time.
 
Between nightmare frontier and yahar'gul unseen village I'm close to saying fuck this game. I'm absolutely hating the atmosphere now. I sprinted to the short cut in nightmare frontier so I could just face the boss as soon as possible. I had no interest in exploring that area as I fucking hated it. Amygdala was easy enough though. Now I'm trudging through yahar gul and the sense of tension is becoming to much. The over powered and continually spawning enimies is just making we want to book it to the boss again. The 3 hunters are pricks and it just feels unfair now. The game feels like it's dragging on now. I'm bored of farming and I just want to see the end now
 

Cess007

Member
Between nightmare frontier and yahar'gul unseen village I'm close to saying fuck this game. I'm absolutely hating the atmosphere now. I sprinted to the short cut in nightmare frontier so I could just face the boss as soon as possible. I had no interest in exploring that area as I fucking hated it. Amygdala was easy enough though. Now I'm trudging through yahar gul and the sense of tension is becoming to much. The over powered and continually spawning enimies is just making we want to book it to the boss again. The 3 hunters are pricks and it just feels unfair now. The game feels like it's dragging on now. I'm bored of farming and I just want to see the end now

Use the stairs to separate them and keep going around. As they move at different speeds, it would be easier to deal with them (and sometimes, one of them will go to the upper area and won't bother you for awhile as you deal with the other 2) That's what i did
 

ramyeon

Member
Between nightmare frontier and yahar'gul unseen village I'm close to saying fuck this game. I'm absolutely hating the atmosphere now. I sprinted to the short cut in nightmare frontier so I could just face the boss as soon as possible. I had no interest in exploring that area as I fucking hated it. Amygdala was easy enough though. Now I'm trudging through yahar gul and the sense of tension is becoming to much. The over powered and continually spawning enimies is just making we want to book it to the boss again. The 3 hunters are pricks and it just feels unfair now. The game feels like it's dragging on now. I'm bored of farming and I just want to see the end now
Weird. I love the atmosphere post-Rom. Some of the best parts of the game, it definitely didn't drag on or outstay its welcome so I'm sorry but that's just you.

Yahar'gul has been designed so that you will sprint past the enemies and take out the Bell Maiden resurrecting them first. There are a few of them and once they're gone the enemies stop despairing. The 3 Hunters are tough but it's never unfair - you need to be using the level design to your advantage in order to lure them away from each other and split them up. If you had been to the Hypogean Gaol earlier in the game and opened up all the doors then you can even skip those guys entirely if you don't want to deal with them.
 
Ugh well after getting killed by Blood Starved beast while he had essentially zero health TWICE IN A ROW...I am done with the game for today. I will stock up on molotovs next time and it should be a cake walk, but I am not happy right now.
 
Weird. I love the atmosphere post-Rom. Some of the best parts of the game, it definitely didn't drag on or outstay its welcome so I'm sorry but that's just you.

Yahar'gul has been designed so that you will sprint past the enemies and take out the Bell Maiden resurrecting them first. There are a few of them and once they're gone the enemies stop despairing. The 3 Hunters are tough but it's never unfair - you need to be using the level design to your advantage in order to lure them away from each other and split them up. If you had been to the Hypogean Gaol earlier in the game and opened up all the doors then you can even skip those guys entirely if you don't want to deal with them.

How far am I from the end?? Also is the nightmare of mensis optional??
 

Skel1ingt0n

I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Just doing my ~weekly check-in.

Can't believe I ignored my best friend's advice to play this game for so long - it's so damn incredible. Absolutely *loving* it, and haven't been this hooked in a single player action/RPG in, shit, maybe a decade?

That said - I'm toward the end of the Forbidden Woods, and I gotta say, the game has definitely lost some of its steam here. The layout is just so damn confusing (at least for a newcomer). The enemies were a bit boring, and you go forever without a shortcut, which sucks if you die (though, luckily, I somehow kept my deaths to a minimum). So far this has been my least favorite place to explore... that said, it's still good; just not on the level of everything else.

Just got to the Shadows and got destroyed on my first go-round. It's 1 in the morning and I have to be up in like five hours, so gonna call it for now.

I've defeated the witches before Vicar Amelia, Amelia, completed Yahar'gul, and am about finished with the Forbidden Woods. I did a small fight with Eileen. Currently level 50-something, and using my Ludwig 95% of the time - awesome weapon.

Any idea how far I am/how much is left?
 
Between nightmare frontier and yahar'gul unseen village I'm close to saying fuck this game. I'm absolutely hating the atmosphere now. I sprinted to the short cut in nightmare frontier so I could just face the boss as soon as possible. I had no interest in exploring that area as I fucking hated it. Amygdala was easy enough though. Now I'm trudging through yahar gul and the sense of tension is becoming to much. The over powered and continually spawning enimies is just making we want to book it to the boss again. The 3 hunters are pricks and it just feels unfair now. The game feels like it's dragging on now. I'm bored of farming and I just want to see the end now

If you're not beefy enough to not get one-shotted by those yeti boulders or have some serious poison resistance gear (and probably frenzy), NF can definitely be a pain.

Yahar'Gul though is really all about knowing where the Bell Maidens are in each section and killing them first. I had a horrible time of it initially and eventually needed to watch a YT vid of someone (probably ENB [here and here]) doing a run through there so I could get a better idea of the shortest path to each. Once that was sorted the place became a cakewalk. Those Hunters as well won't all follow you through the doorway next to the lamp if you're looking for an easier way to handle them.
 
So....was I supposed to kill the hunter ( with the machine guy on the tower) in Old Yharnam. I tackled his ass off the roof oop.

Killing him is ok (though you don't need to). He drops the powder keg badge upon death. If you don't have it yet quit out of the game and reload and the badge should be waiting for you on top of the tower.
 
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