skyfall
Member
And she has the same lez haircut all the other npcs, I can’t imagine anything creative coming out of her
And my hope for this being any good is gone.
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Indiana Jones by MachineGames Officially Revealed - Coming in 2024 | Xbox Direct 2024
FrankWza
Member
I know what you're saying. I have the same opinion about Robocop. Liked the game but still should have been 3rd person imo. Something like alien was awesome in first person because you're chased by the Alien. When you're playing as the character it's usually better to actually see it during gameplay
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DeceptiveAlarm
Gold Member
Wtf fps. I was excited but that kills it for me. I figured this would happen.
Power Pro
Member
wait, that's a her?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
wtf Frank.
Robocop in third person would have sucked balls.
Oh damn, these look good.
Where's rofif at lol.
Draugoth
can you add these direct feed screens to the OP ?
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Mister Wolf
Gold Member
Those IPs exist because of Indiana Jones. Accusing Indiana Jones of plagiarism for having the very hallmarks of what the franchise is known for would be idiotic.
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
wait, that's a her?
No, it's a guy. Edward Curtis-Sivess.
Topher
Gold Member
Uncharted was compared to Tomb Raider throughout its lifetime. So what? That didn't make it any less of a game. What would have made it less of a game is if Naughty Dog made design decisions based on being worried about being compared to Tomb Raider.
Imtjnotu
Member
Punished Miku
Member
Tomb Raider reboot was constantly accused of being an Uncharted copy.
Those IPs exist because of Indiana Jones. Accusing Indiana Jones of plagiarism for having the very hallmarks of what the franchise is known for would be idiotic.
borderline stupid to make a first person indy game tbh.
but whenever the camera switches to third person he is animating janky as hell, so maybe it was the right choice.
still trusting machinegames to deliver something worthwhile, but technically they seem to be out of their depth.
but whenever the camera switches to third person he is animating janky as hell, so maybe it was the right choice.
still trusting machinegames to deliver something worthwhile, but technically they seem to be out of their depth.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Watched the trailer couple of times....Damn, they really nailed the style 
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Looked good, although I’d really like the option to choose between first and third person.
I put it on the Steam wishlist.
I put it on the Steam wishlist.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Are you implying that this game isn't third person because Machine Games were worried about comparisons?
transformer
Member
Conspiracy? Where did that come from? Isn’t cyberpunk first person also? That’s game is great. This thread is either this game looks good to great, or first person bad, game is awful. I wonder how much of the latter had any intention of playing this game either way. There are so many good first person perspective games, it’s such an odd stance to have to dismiss a game due to this. Maybe I’ve been living under a rock all these years, but I thought first person games have been pretty prominent and well liked for decades.
Draugoth
Gold Member
I still think it was a dumb move. Third Person and i would be sold on this. This just feels like Wolfestein again.
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Robb
Gold Member
I can’t recall Machine Games ever making a 3rd person game, so yeah, it was likely the right choice here.
I think if something should be questioned it’s probably the dev choice. As soon as it was revealed Machine Games was doing this the likelihood of it being first person skyrocketed.
StereoVsn
Member
RuboCop is also a very different property. The movies showed the hud. 1st person is very fitting for this sort of a game.
Indy would have been much more suited to a 3rd person adventure aka Tomb Raider or Uncharted.
looking at their animation quality, they should definetly be worried of such comparisons yeah, u4 from 2016 takes a huge dump on this.
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
That's a woman?
Topher
Gold Member
I'm saying it would be a silly basis for making that decision. I have no way of know if it was actually a factor.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Besides the first person perspective, I don't think the trailer looked like a Wolfenstein game at all.
This is how the majority of the recent Wolfensteins games go.
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Neon Xenon
Member
Given that the focus of the game is in first-person (not really a surprise, given the developer), I need to see more gameplay, but what's shown so far seems alright.
The jury is still out on the writing and the story (please don't fuck up either of these).
I'm cautious and really need to see more, but as it stands, this game represents the most interest I've had for anything related to Indiana Jones in a long time. Like with Star Wars: Outlaws, a game has me caring more about an IP way more than almost anything from the film side (or TV side, not that this applies to Indy).
The jury is still out on the writing and the story (please don't fuck up either of these).
I'm cautious and really need to see more, but as it stands, this game represents the most interest I've had for anything related to Indiana Jones in a long time. Like with Star Wars: Outlaws, a game has me caring more about an IP way more than almost anything from the film side (or TV side, not that this applies to Indy).
delfrickintree
Member
Because you don't get it. That other game with gunplay, meele, rope swinging, climbing and puzzles wasn’t a game but a movie but this game based on the movie is a game and not a movie because it's first person.
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MiguelItUp
Member
To each their own but I thought it was ultra fitting for Robocop because of his vision's HUD. It was all there and felt more immersive IMO. Could've done third person w/ first person HUD, but I could see that taking people out.
Agreed. Just because it's FPS and has Nazis doesn't mean it's Wolfenstein. There's clearly a much more different vibe here that will flow throughout the whole experience. It has to feel like Indiana Jones, and they made it clear that's what they're going for.Besides the first person perspective, I don't think the trailer looked like a Wolfenstein game at all.
This is how the majority of the recent Wolfensteins games go.
Pejo
Gold Member
Agree on all points. If the combat/gameplay is interactive enough, I can deal with the first person perspective. It seems like Bioshock in that they want you to think on your feet and use your environment against the enemies.
In the end, just like Bioshock, people will probably ignore that mechanic completely and just use whatever the most effective combat methods are.
LastBattle
Member
When I saw this guy mention “made for a modern audience” my heart sank a little. Still, I didn’t see anything “modern audiences” expect from entertainment in the reveal. Let’s hope this game is “the message” free or at least non intrusive.
And my hope for this being any good is gone.
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Nemesis Prime
Member
First is a bold decision, but the right one
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Mods will be "ease" to make as there are already model and animations for third person. \o/
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Nah. This feels like the complaints after it was revealed that Cyberpunk would be in first person.
Thats like arguing that Hogwarts Legacy was going to flop because moviegoers hated Fantastic Beasts 3, the last Potterverse movie. It flopped in the cinemas.
Doesn’t matter how bad the last movie was. People remember franchises they like. You could make a horrible Star Wars movie and people will still buy Star Wars games, pick up plastic lightsabers and remember the franchise fondly. There’s no tie.
This game will thrive or fail on its own merits. Not because people didn’t want to see old Harrison Ford.
Boy bawang
Member
Gameplay looks great, and the atmosphere is really there. That's what matters to me. Visuals are in the good enough territory.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Look up the direct feed shots, the visuals also look pretty good.
Valt7786
Member
That's because the last movie was dogshit, not because people don't care about Indiana Jones.
I'd like to think people would love a GOOD Indiana Jones movie, not "watch Old Indy get berated and belittled by the new stronk female self-insert for 2 hours".
Revolutionary
Member
Wolfenstein 2 had a GIRLBOSS cutscene with a topless pregnant woman shooting Nazis with an LMG. These guys don't know the meaning of the word 'subtlety'.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
That bloody exclusivity. Indiana Jones was one of those games I wanted to play, being exclusive is unnecessary.
Nemesis Prime
Member
You’ve pretty much said whole load of nothing.The biggest issue with first person is that it minimizes the most recognizable thing about Indiana Jones - his silhouette. You always know that it's him in the movies as soon as you see this:
If you were to take a glance at this game during the moment-to-moment gameplay, there is very little that signals to you that this game is Indiana Jones and not just any other first-person shooter. You are only reminded of the fact during the occasional third-person cut away. It's a huge blunder by the developers and no amount of "it's in first-person to really make you feel like Indy!" is going to fix it.
Some of the most beloved and recognizable characters come from first person games, this is such a non issue.
First person games are better for combat and immersion. My favorite types of games are those similar to Dishonored, Halo, Deus Ex, Thief etc…
They have the best and most wackiest gameplay, which is what Indy is all about.
We’ve done TPS uncharted clones enough times now, why does it need to enter to be needlessly compared to a game it could never live up to?
CosmicComet
Member
LMAO Xbox fans stay spooging for anything first person even if it makes no f'ing sense.
As soon as they see a disembodied hand it's like they are put at ease, like a baby suckling its mama's teat, reminiscing about Halo's heyday.
As soon as they see a disembodied hand it's like they are put at ease, like a baby suckling its mama's teat, reminiscing about Halo's heyday.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
semiconscious
Member
well, that was because the games replaced much of the trademark exploration of the originals with massive mounts of combat, not because it was third person. which it always had been, eh?...
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
The negativity doesn't come from the trailer, it's this console war obsessed forum.
Stooky
Member
it was an uncharted clone.
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DanielG165
Member
Hogwarts Legacy didn’t flop, did it? Nor did Robocop. A good game with a recognizable and beloved IP is a good game with a recognizable and beloved IP. The last movie being horrible has no bearing on this game, nor the franchise at large. It was simply a terribly made product by people who didn’t know what they were doing.
The game will be its own thing, just like the other two I mentioned.
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