Codeblew
Member
Damn I hope so. My eyesight isn't what it used to be and the text is already hard enough to read with the large font. I have been thinking about upgrading my 55" to 65" for that reason alone.
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Minsc
Gold Member
There's definitely a strong negative reaction, so I hear you, and sounds all like valid complaints. I'm still super excited though, despite it all, though who knows it all may change. I am planning on running Druid for S1 myself, and and reading today about Druids 1-shotting the Lilith boss, so maybe there's a little hope haha.
Still, if you're correct and it causes as much damage as you say to the game/playerbase, perhaps it even will be for the best, as it'll be the fastest way to get them to change course and hopefully promise to never pull something like that again if they want people to keep coming back.
Codeblew
Member
A lot of people are not happy to say the least. However, I am still excited to come back for Season 1 tomorrow. I am going to go Necro instead of Sorc this time.
Zheph
Member
I haven't lost too much damage with Druid but they took a big hit in survivability (only unstoppable for 6s is quite the difference), I still expect them to be the top performer in S1 so you should be alright. The leveling phase will be the biggest issue.
Orbital2060
Member
I havent played in a few days so might remember wrong. The font just seems easier to read but maybe its just me
bronkonagurski
Gold Member
I played a bit with my level 100 barbarian and level 60 druid last night. They definitely lost power but they still felt okay to play because I don't really press too hard content-wise on higher level nightmare dungeons. Now I usually do Hell Tides too but avoided them since I heard the cinder rate is bugged out. The real test for me is going to be the Season 1 experience of leveling all the way up again in the face of these changes. Less power, slower leveling, harder to roll the right gear...those things are on my mind at the moment but I tomorrow I am going to try and clear my mind and just see how it all feels.
Orbital2060
Member
Definately feel the damage reduction nerf. Didnt have too much trouble with tier 21-22 nightmare dungeon before patch. Both damage output and damage reduction are much worse, barely managed to clear a tier 21 NM dungeon.
cormack12
Gold Member
My rogue is fucked. I can't find anything regarding evade or dodge in those patch notes, but when I press 'B' to reposition using TB there is a 15 second cooldown now. 15 seconds!!! Which means I'm now getting CCed to death and even worse if you have those little spider webs that also trap you you're fucked.
I don't mind having to run nm dungeons a couple of levels lower if I need to. I tried a level 90 before and I'm 87. I died once to the butcher but it was a struggle. And then I looked at the XP bar and was like wtf. Given the xp change it really isn't worth the 1-3% gain.
I'm taking longer to clear dungeons for less xp while being easier to kill and my build has had the synergy fucked over. I'm not gonna be raging or anything but I thought max level was within reach, but it seems miles away now and something not worth pursuing
I don't mind having to run nm dungeons a couple of levels lower if I need to. I tried a level 90 before and I'm 87. I died once to the butcher but it was a struggle. And then I looked at the XP bar and was like wtf. Given the xp change it really isn't worth the 1-3% gain.
I'm taking longer to clear dungeons for less xp while being easier to kill and my build has had the synergy fucked over. I'm not gonna be raging or anything but I thought max level was within reach, but it seems miles away now and something not worth pursuing
Zheph
Member
Wasn't it just the dodge breaker affix for your dodge?
cormack12
Gold Member
What's that? Can I get it back?
Zheph
Member
Well as you know there are few affixes within each NM dungeons and there is one that break your dodge so I believe thats what happened to you because they didn't nerf anything in that regard
And yes it was just for the NM dungeon, I'm sure it's fine if you log now
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pleaseinsertdisctwo
Member
To the kings and queens playing this on console:
I remember playing D3 and D2:R and the cinematics, while gorgeous, often had lots of stuttering and certain cinematics were super compressed with distracting artifacting. I know D4 only has 2 (for now), but is it the same case here?
I mean, I don’t mind if the cinematics aren’t 4K but if they’re like 360p with stuttering that’ll annoy me
I remember playing D3 and D2:R and the cinematics, while gorgeous, often had lots of stuttering and certain cinematics were super compressed with distracting artifacting. I know D4 only has 2 (for now), but is it the same case here?
I mean, I don’t mind if the cinematics aren’t 4K but if they’re like 360p with stuttering that’ll annoy me
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TheDarkPhantom
Member
Played 3 hours with my level 62 custom lightning Sorc last night. Exp gain nerfed, overall I'm doing more damage though. Seems most people got fucked over by the patch, hopefully Blizz balances stuff out and gets the game where it needs to be, lots of room for improvement.
bronkonagurski
Gold Member
The cinder drop rate for Hell Tides is fixed now fyi.
Antwix
Member
not sure if there's an option on console, but on PC there is a setting in the options menu to make the cutscenes run at a higher framerate. but regardless, they played good. i think in the betas they were rough but i believe this was fixed early on.
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DaleinCalgary
Member
yup, and I think they dropped the mob levels as it was much easier to kill than yesterday. Feels like before
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I got this as part of my 4090. I take it that after the nerfs that it's not worth playing at the moment?
Yay or Nay?
Yay or Nay?
Codeblew
Member
It is definitely worth playing at least the story. Whether you like the game after that, only you will know. I still like the game and I am excited to start Season 1 in 13 hours.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
I’ve decided: I’ll go necro for the season.
It’s the only viable spell caster in this game.
It’s the only viable spell caster in this game.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Cant wait to get back on this after wrapping up FFXVI!
Was really enjoying it.
Was really enjoying it.
ssringo
Member
Ditto. I was going to roll a Rogue but I'm kinda interested in seeing firsthand how the Sorcerer does with the hearts. Especially since the last minute change giving armor to the hearts.Going sorc, i dont care
Miyazaki’s Slave
Gold Member
I think ARPG fans are used to the ebb and flow of game updates (nerfs buffs seasons etc). If you like ARPG's D4 is a good one and you will enjoy it and will play it for several years.
If the player (they) play ARPG's for story/lore stuff, they are going to bounce off hard after finishing the "story".
TheMan
Member
Definitely worth playing, especially if you already own it! Game is a lot of fun. Keep in mind most of the complaints are coming from very vocals and hardcore players. I don’t know if you’re that hardcore but myself being casual, I barely noticed any changes last time I played
Antwix
Member
rogue should be really really good still
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Miyazaki’s Slave
Gold Member
HA! Ditto. I just rolled a rogue. Based off the patch notes and looking at the available MHeart skills I will be able to climb to 100 without too much trouble.
Hmmm looks like I will playing a Bow rogue, twisting blades isn't as awesome as I remember it
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
HA! Ditto. I just rolled a rogue. Based off the patch notes and looking at the available MHeart skills I will be able to climb to 100 without too much trouble.
Hmmm looks like I will playing a Bow rogue, twisting blades isn't as awesome as I remember it
I had a lot of fun with a penetrating shot Rogue in the beta. I love dem beefy nukes.
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
Man, I extra waited a bit after the release and played FF16 first until this game is running better but ever since I booted it, it has been a clusterfuck. How does Blizzard screw up so bad ?
Minsc
Gold Member
So you're saying you randomly choose the exact hour of season 1 starting to boot it up and decide it's a clusterfuck? Time to go buy a lottery ticket.
For all the hardcore, the start of a season is a much bigger deal than the launch of the game I'm sure. Seasons are the bread and butter of the game itself.
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Not leader boards tho. Not a lot of incentive there.
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
Say what you want, it’s bloody joke that, one month after release, I had more issues logging in than I didn’t. What a clown show.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
So I have to create a new character for the seasonal stuff? I’m not sure if I read that right when selecting my character.
Josemayuste
Member
Minsc
Gold Member
Yes, seasons are supposed to have very unique rules and give you a new-ish experience of leveling / gameplay / challenges. Think very much like new card sets coming out for Hearthstone where they limit the older sets you can play with each season etc.
New season comes out - decide if the changes sound interesting to you - put in / play the 50 hours to build up your character and overcome the challenges, then repeat in 3 months.