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PlayStation Showcase 2021 |OT| September 9th (Show rating poll added)

How would you rate the PS5 Showcase?

  • A

    Votes: 83 16.2%

  • B

    Votes: 147 28.7%

  • C

    Votes: 133 25.9%

  • D

    Votes: 98 19.1%

  • E

    Votes: 52 10.1%
  • Total voters
    513
A

Aguero9320

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I’m looking forward to this, hopefully Sony will have something exciting to show, but I’m keeping my expectations in check - worthwhile secrets are rarely kept. If they don’t, and the hype is setting everyone up for a fall here, it will still be funny watching the defence force leap into action - I think they might do some more zero substance fanservice type stuff like that ridiculous E3 everyone massively overreacted to with Shenmue. That’s always fun to watch. They’ve been quiet for so long I can see them taking that easy path for some over the top online reactions.
 
FranXico

FranXico

Member
Foorbits said:
What I'd like to see:
- Sony gained rights to all Konami IP (some teasers and/or roadmap)
- PS Now upgrades
- God of War 2 gameplay
- Astrobot, Returnal and R&C DLC
- Spider-Man 2 tease
- Twisted Metal reboot
- New IP, new surprises

Basically a good mix of things we haven't seen before and are coming soon plus what's coming next for the platform.

Please no but they will:
- Deathloop
- GTA5
- Horizon 2
- GT7
- COD:V
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GT7 is ok though, we hardly saw it so far.
 
SlimySnake

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
sncvsrtoip said:
so only singleplayer games will be crossgen and then nextgen games on ps5 will be gaas and multiplayer ? x_X
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Didnt JImbo say that any future cross gen games after GT7 and GOW2 will also have the #10 upgrade option? Pretty sure hes talking about Factions and whatever MP games they have in development. BP's MGS remake is probably next gen like Demon Souls.

Schrier's article said that the remake was for the PS5.

For their first solo project, Mumbauer and his crew wanted to pitch something that would be well received by their bosses at Sony. Recognizing the risks and expense involved with developing a new game from scratch, they decided to focus on remaking older games for the new PlayStation 5.
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He thought the remake project was too expensive, according to people familiar with the matter, and asked why the planned budget for T1X was so much higher than remakes Sony had made in the past. The reason was that this one was on a brand new graphical engine for the PlayStation 5. Mumbauer needed to hire more people to help rework the graphics on new technology as well as redesign gameplay mechanics.
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I have wondered before how they can have multiple big AAA single player games in development at GG, ND and SSM while all their A team is busy on TLOU2, Horizon 2 and GOW2 and I guess it makes sense that the new IPs are not single player but mp games made by the so-called B team or the multiplayer devs who didnt have much to do after shipping Uncharted 4, KZSF and GoW Ascension. Unless of course, the B team is working is on Horizon 2, GOW2 and Cory took the A team with him for his new IP, but I highly doubt that.

There is only so many studios, and so many devs over at Sony. Expecting brand new AAA single player games from ND, SSM, GG while they are struggling to put out sequels is too much. Best case scenario, they have these games in pre-production ready to go in full production right after they ship their cross gen games, but then we are looking at at least two years after 2022. Will Sony announce 2024 titles at this conference?
 
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Perrott

Perrott

Gold Member
Men_in_Boxes said:
I agree with most of your comment here. One question though, why does everyone think Guerillas multiplayer project is separate from Forbidden West? Has there been anything that's indicated as much?
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Game director Simon Larouche refers to the multiplayer project as a secret unannounced title, hence why everyone assumes it's independent from Forbidden West. Plus you got statements by Hermen Hulst from 3 years ago saying that he wanted Guerrilla to be able to put out new games every two years in the future, which pointed at them becoming a multi-team studio working on various projects at the same time, and Larouche's game being a separate title from HFW would fit into that strategy.
 
saintjules

saintjules

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reksveks

Member
anothertech said:
I love how E3 goes all the way to September now.

On a more serious note, this will likely be better than all of E3. 300 to 1 odds.
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I quite liked the xbox E3 event as it showed what we were getting this year including on gamepass and the next year of Bethesda. It also included Somerville and Replaced which I am looking forward to. I think the Sony one this week might be closer to the first xsx showcase where we see a longer term roadmap.
 
yurinka

yurinka

Member
SlimySnake said:
Didnt JImbo say that any future cross gen games after GT7 and GOW2 will also have the #10 upgrade option?
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Yes. But if some of the upcoming MP games are F2P (not sure if it will be the case) that wouldn't apply, obviously.

SlimySnake said:
There is only so many studios, and so many devs over at Sony. Expecting brand new AAA single player games from ND, SSM, GG while they are struggling to put out sequels is too much. Best case scenario, they have these games in pre-production ready to go in full production right after they ship their cross gen games, but then we are looking at at least two years after 2022. Will Sony announce 2024 titles at this conference?
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Sony will focus on late 2021 and 2022 games. There may be maybe a handful 2023 games. They have enough 1st party published exclusives, 3rd party exclusives (big and small, and of all types) plus top multis with marketing deal to don't need to announce or show there 2024 games.

Consider that studios like ND, SSM, GG or Insomniac are working on multiple games. SSM and GG have been working on an unannounced game since 2018. ND seems to have TLOU2 PS5+TLOU remake+TLOU2 MP game+Uncharted 4 PC port and who knows if they continue with the Uncharted spinoff they were developing with help from Bend. And Insomniac typically releases at least one or two games per year.
 
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Greggy

Member
yurinka said:
Yes. But if some of the upcoming MP games are F2P (not sure if it will be the case) that wouldn't apply, obviously.


Sony will focus on late 2021 and 2022 games. There may be maybe a handful 2023 games. They have enough 1st party published exclusives, 3rd party exclusives (big and small, and of all types) plus top multis with marketing deal to don't need to announce or show there 2024 games.

Consider that studios like ND, SSM, GG or Insomniac are working on multiple games. SSM and GG have been working on an unannounced game since 2018. ND seems to have TLOU2 PS5+TLOU remake+TLOU2 MP game+Uncharted 4 PC port and who knows if they continue with the Uncharted spinoff they were developing with help from Bend. And Insomniac typically releases at least one or two games per year.
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When are you coming back from your holiday? From reality I mean. I wish I lived in a world where it took 6 months to make a game. That sentence disqualifies everything you said before. Difficult to be credible after that statement.
 
yurinka

yurinka

Member
tenebre said:


I don't think COD Vanguard's gonna be at the show.
And i'm happy about that.
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Yeah, if they release the trailer now pretty likely won't be in the show, maybe only in the sizzle reel. It would be nice to focus the event on games shown in the event for the first time, on exclusive games over multiplatform games and on big games over small games.

Greggy said:
When are you coming back from your holiday? From reality I mean. I wish I lived in a world where it took 6 months to make a game. That sentence disqualifies everything you said before. Difficult to be credible after that statement.
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I never said it takes 6 months to make games. Recent AAA games took on average around 5 years to be developed. 6 months it's what it took decades ago.

P.S.: Stop being a scumbag making personal attacks simply because you don't agree someone. You'll stay longer in this forum before being banned, people will start to take you seriously and your life will be better.
 
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Perrott

Perrott

Gold Member
KAL2006 said:
Interesting that we got Call of Duty Vanguard multiplayer trailer today, Alan Wake announcement today and Horizon pre order trailer 5 days ago, Deathloop a week ago. Perhaps all these won't be shown in this event. As the last trailer is so recent.
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Plus the final trailer for Death Stranding: Director's Cut tomorrow. With all that shit out of the way, I'm starting to get the feeling that already announced games would amount to just 1/3 of the showcase, with the remaining 2/3 of it being new titles being shown for the first time.
 
saintjules

saintjules

Member
tenebre said:


I don't think COD Vanguard's gonna be at the show.
And i'm happy about that.
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I think anything closer to their respective release dates won't be shown. I'm highly expecting new things to be announced, even if they're teasers. And some of the other majors with extended gameplay footage.
 
SlimySnake

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
xPikYx said:
It's going to be a lot of indies, ps4 crossgen and 3rd party games at best, then a bit of gameplay of Horizon and a trailer of the new gow, that's it. It will ne nothing interesting as usual, everything is postponed to 2022 when probably we'll start getting some games with nextgen in mind on new nextgen engines
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Agreed. This year reminds me of 2014 when Sony had an absolutely underwhelming E3 2014 conference. They had CG trailers for Bloodborne and that so called realtime teaser for Uncharted 4, and thats about it. The rest was all third party stuff. I remember going to the movie theaters for that conference and being absolutely livid at the lack of first party games shown.

But then they turned around and produced a conference for the ages in 2015. 1.5 years after launch. Horizon, The Last Guardian, Uncharted 4, Ratchet, and then somehow topped it a year later with Days Gone, Death Stranding, GOW, Spiderman and Detroit. So I guess, E3 2022 is when Sony's first party will be ready to show off its next batch of games.

I suspect they will end the conference on a promise of next gen with a next gen teaser on a new engine kind of like Uncharted 4's first teaser. Just an inengine showpiece that sets the bar and keeps people occupied for months. I still remember that massive thread where people debated whether or not Uncharted 4's teaser was realtime.

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KAL2006

Banned
Perrott said:
Plus the final trailer for Death Stranding: Director's Cut tomorrow. With all that shit out of the way, I'm starting to get the feeling that already announced games would amount to just 1/3 of the showcase, with the remaining 2/3 of it being new titles being shown for the first time.
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I'd also like to highlight the blogpost also states for games releasing this holiday and the future. That means no Deathloop, Jett, Death Stranding, Kena and etc as those are not holiday titles.
 
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Hunnybun

Member
KAL2006 said:
Interesting that we got Call of Duty Vanguard multiplayer trailer today, Alan Wake announcement today and Horizon pre order trailer 5 days ago, Deathloop a week ago. Perhaps all these won't be shown in this event. As the last trailer is so recent.
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Yeah that's all promising.

Personally I don't think Deathloop or Alan Wake will be there. Surely they'd have saved the announcement if they were gonna show Alan Wake, and Deathloop has just been shown SO many times now, plus just had loads of previews the other week, plus it's actually coming out in a few days... I think even Sony realise that's probably enough now lol.

I think COD is possible but probably won't show, and I reckon Horizon is sort of 60:40 in favour, but just a trailer, not another gameplay walkthrough.
 
Magnific0giganticus

Magnific0giganticus

Banned
Greggy said:
When are you coming back from your holiday? From reality I mean. I wish I lived in a world where it took 6 months to make a game. That sentence disqualifies everything you said before. Difficult to be credible after that statement.
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36 games since 1999. That's around 1.6 games per year on average. Some big ones, some small ones, some tiny ones here and there. Still, not a comment that should have ruffled any feathers but of someone doing nothing in a thread but looking to get triggered.

Insomniac Games - Wikipedia

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KAL2006

Banned
So here is my predictions V3

- God of War 2 Gameplay Demo (Decent amount of footage featuring a biss fight ending)
- Demons Souls: The Sixth Archstone DLC (Can be bought as a DLC, but a bundle is also revealed with Demons Souls base game, Demons Souls based game features a new casual mode for easy difficulty)
- Avengers: Spiderman DLC Trailer
- Returnal DLC (Base game is also updated with improvements such as save states)
- Gran Turismo 7 New Trailer
- Final Fantasy 16 New Trailer
- GTAV E+E and GTA Trilogy announced
- Forspoken Gameplay Demo (Decent amount if footage to get a good idea of gameplay loop)
- Dragons Dogma 2 Announced
- Arrowhead Games New IP (published by Sony and exclusive to PS5)
- Last of Us 2 Directors Cut (Improved lighting and textures and polygons, minor new content such as weapons, an extra section but not stotry focused)
- Guerilla Games 2nd Project Tease New IP (PS5 only, 2023)
- Firewalk Studios New IP Trailer (PS5 only, 2023)

No shows
Call of Duty Vanguard (we just had a trailer)
Horizon FW (We had a State of Play, and a Pre Order Trailer very recently)
Death Stranding (Trailer coming day before event)
Deathloop (trailer and previews just shown last week)
Alan Wake (already revealed, also if it's a Plus game that's something they will just reveal when they anounce October Plus games)
Kena (Blogpost states this showcase is focused on holiday and future games, this is coming before holiday)
Factions (looking at theere hiring of this games it seems this may have been rebooted or has had development issues, I think this will be saved for Game Awards or next year E3)

I think Demons Souls DLC and Last of Us 2 Directors Cut will both be released this holiday, one in November and one in December.
 
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