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Does FF7 Remake support VRR for the quality mode? That game felt good at 30fps, so if you can get even 40 it would probably be fantastic.
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VRR support rolling out this week for PS5
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TrebleShot
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I think it would need a patch to be supported at that level. Unpatched games will just not stutter.
Venuspower
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At least with 120 Hz you are throwing away half the color resolution, because the PS5 has to fall back to 422 chroma subsampling due to the bandwidth limitation (32 Gbps) of the HDMI chipset. But afaik Elden Ring currently still has a 60 FPS cap. So this should not be a problem in this case.
As others have said, you should try the Fine Tune Dark Areas option of the C9.
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Arioco
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The 40 fps mode doesn't require VRR, requires a 120 Hz display, even if it doesn't support VRR.
Unfortunately FFVII R doesn't currently have a 40 fps mode, that's something developers have to patch in every game they want to run at 40 fps, since they have to change the fps cap from 30 to 40 fps.
a multicultural team of v
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Right, I guess I meant does it unlock the quality mode frame rate so that it could go higher than 30? I just threw out 40 because that appears to be a level most 30 locked games can reach.
Oh, when people said it support VRR I'd assumed that meant it received a patch.
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Arioco
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No, as I said VRR or 120 Hz won't uncap the 30 fps cap the game currently has. That's something that would require a specific patch like the one Insomniac released yesterday for Spiderman. If Square wants to provide a 40 fps mode they will have to patch the game itself, a system update for the PS4 is not enough. They probably won't, to be honest.
I've tried it with Lost Judgment and the effect is transformative in the 40k 30fps mode.
Previously camera rotation at 30fps created so much judder that while I usually prefer extra fidelity if it's worth it, I thought the 30fps was kinda unplayable and I played it at 60fps.
Now with VRR that judder is gone.
FF7R Intergrade also feels much smoother at 30fps.
Previously camera rotation at 30fps created so much judder that while I usually prefer extra fidelity if it's worth it, I thought the 30fps was kinda unplayable and I played it at 60fps.
Now with VRR that judder is gone.
FF7R Intergrade also feels much smoother at 30fps.
Luipadre
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Sonys VRR implementation does absolutely nothing in 30 fps games. It has a range of 48-120hz
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Rivet
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I must say Elden Ring PS5 version now feels much better with VRR (only in performance mode obviously, VRR range being 48-120), at least where I am in Lyendell. I played all the game on PS4 version on PS5, which was locked 60 so great too, but you gain slightly better visuals that way.
This particular PS5 game certainly is one of those which needed VRR with its unstable framerate.
This particular PS5 game certainly is one of those which needed VRR with its unstable framerate.
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FrankWza
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Absolutely. I played the PS4 version on PS5 in BC. Hit some backlog and GT7 and MLB. Now when I replay I can play the PS5 version and get a graphics bump and smoothness.
I don't know what's happening but in Lost Judgment the reduction in judder associated to camera rotations/movements in fidelity mode with VRR enabled is really evident.
As I said the judder in this game at 30fps was so bad I was forced to play it at 60fps last year.
If other people have the game and can share their experience I'm really interested to read other opinions.
My TV is a 55Q95T.
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omegasc
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I used this one from a techradar article as base. I believe I ended up lowering 1 click on 100hz.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
HeisenbergFX4
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alabtrosMyster
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Great, this probably means that I will never ear about it anymore!
DJ12
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Shame that wasn't the argument though isnt it.Apparently Insomniac's games in performance mode thanks to VRR run up to 100FPS now. I wishethomaz was still here to yet again try to convince us that locked 60 is better.
The argument was that below 60 with vrr was worse, which it is.
Theres literally been one game prior to ps5 getting vrr that managed to pull off a higher frame rate with vrr enabled and an uncapped framerate. 1.
Who knew ps5 had that much performance left on the table to guarantee a locked frame rate.
Lmao who the fuck is arguing that below 60 with vrr is better than locked 60
You are going to still hear about it because VRR improves the gaming experience on PlayStation in ways people like you fail to comprehend.
Devs were leaving so much performance power on the table just to keep fps locked at 60fps.
Just by observing some of these Spiderman videos on PS5 with VRR enabled, we could have had BETTER ray Tracing in RT performance mode equal to the fidelity mode if VRR was available on day 1 of PS5 release.
The game runs mostly above 70fps alway up to 100fps when FPS is uncapped. Devs will only feel comfortable doing things like this for players with VRR capable displays.
This is a huge win for all gamers. We just all now need to start adapting too VRR TVs.
alabtrosMyster
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I have had VRR/free sync on my PCs for years now, I have nothing else to say on this subject, it's borderline useless on 60hz panels.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
On the contrary, you're going to hear about it more now since PS5 owners with VRR displays will also post about the benefits in games which drop frames like Elden Ring etc.
And to your second post, no VRR is just as useful for 60hz games as there's a good number of games that don't lock to that target either.
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RoadHazard
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Apparently Insomniac's games in performance mode thanks to VRR run up to 100FPS now. I wish
Oh, what did he get banned for? The ban list doesn't link to a post.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Supposedly 20 something warnings, a couple of thread bans and some direct communique from mods to him, this is based on the other thread.
Dr Bass
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I didn't have many interactions with him, but I have to say on the few that I did where he was blatantly, objectively, wrong about something, he did act like quite the knob. And he dug his heels into his wrongness. it was like talking to a brick wall. If he was like that everywhere, I imagine he was just too much of a headache in general.
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Dr Bass
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What do you expect the lower bounds to be? Frame rate is frame rate. VRR just does not help frame rate.
Do you think VRR should help 15fps?
What about 1?
Clearly there is a point where it's not going to "help." Not sure why 30 would be a disappointment.
RoadHazard
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VRR rarely supports refresh rates lower than 48hz (maybe sometimes 40?). Not sure what the technical reason for it is, but yeah.
DeepEnigma
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Rocket League is updating right now. Over 3.8GB, I assume for this as well.
Game was locked in both modes anyhow tho prior.
Game was locked in both modes anyhow tho prior.
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RoadHazard
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Sure, but there must be a technical reason? Otherwise why not just display each refresh whenever it happens no matter how infrequent they are?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
There's only a very few VRR TVs that have range below 30 FPS, and at that point it's almost diminishing returns anyway.
Dust-by-Monday
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Press the green button 8 times. I’m serious
Dust-by-Monday
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I’m kinda annoyed that we have way too many options now.
30fps fidelity (4K)
60fps lower resolution
40fps 120Hz
VRR fidelity uncapped
VRR 120 uncapped
So my fear is devs will just rely on VRR too much and make sucky performing games because…. Buy a new TV and then deal with a variable frame rate where the input lag is no longer consistent.
30fps fidelity (4K)
60fps lower resolution
40fps 120Hz
VRR fidelity uncapped
VRR 120 uncapped
So my fear is devs will just rely on VRR too much and make sucky performing games because…. Buy a new TV and then deal with a variable frame rate where the input lag is no longer consistent.
RafterXL
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So, because of the idiotic way that Sony has implemented 120hz and VRR on their system, Elden Ring is still not as smooth as it should be on a PS5. They care more about their television specs than they do their Playstation customers. The VRR range is locked at 48hz instead of 40hz, they didn't implement 120hz from a system level, which means no latency improvements, and they never added LFC, which means that this entire thing is significantly gimped compared to PC or Xbox.
So, basically, they made us wait well over a year for a half assed implementation. Awesome.
You guys and your constant bait and warrior bullshit are what's literally creating terrible discussions on this forum.
So, basically, they made us wait well over a year for a half assed implementation. Awesome.
Why are you so insecure that you have to proactively come up with shit to be antagonistic about?
You guys and your constant bait and warrior bullshit are what's literally creating terrible discussions on this forum.
Lone Wolf
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Speaking of, have we heard of any future updates to move the bandwidth to 40 or 48 Gbps, or are we forever stuck at 32?
OmegaSupreme
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Pretty sure it's a hardware limitation.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The VRR ship has just docked to the Sony-lands, we're gonna get a lot of new folks onboard !
MasterCornholio
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For the Touryst ?
SLB1904
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My dude writes a bait warrior bullshit, and get triggered by my harmless comment.
No I'm not joining your outrage crusade. Deal with it
Lol that post history. Fuck out here hypocrite
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SLB1904
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Activate on ps5 and already forget it exists. For now own people who activate won't even think about it. It will be forgotten because its on the system level. The same way people forgot about the booster thing for games
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yep, set it and forget is the best way to go.
VRR benefits only really come up in active discussion when DF/VGTech videos come out showing drops in prominent games. Or when half the people in an OT will say "man this game fucking chugs so much" and the other half say "whatcha talking about, runs smooth as butter on my PS5/Xbox".
Thirty7ven
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Glad we won’t have VRR being used as poor quality console warring that’s for sure.
DeepEnigma
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Thirty7ven
Banned
Right I forgot, VRR on PS5 is shit because
Killer8
Member
I'm loving all my fellow Blue brethren coming around to VRR now.
Love y'all !
It's kind of annoying actually. They shit on it for months thinking it was overblown nonsense, but are now realizing how useful it can actually be. Console warrior dunces who know nothing about technology need sunk to the bottom of the sea.
GHG
Member
Also the VRR range is not locked at 48hz. Here's what the setting says in Spiderman:
Where do you get your information?
SenjutsuSage
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I love reading this so more people can now see what a game changer this feature has been all along. Downplaying it was always ridiculous and tied to console wars.