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[Rosoboy19]

You might not be scared but your main account is

That’s funny. This is my only account, I just don’t post much (been trying to participate more lately).
I guess your ridiculous reply answers my question. In the end it’s all just tribalistic console warrior bull crap, one side claiming the other is scared because their box isn’t as powerful or whatever. Thanks for the insight!

 

[MisterXDTV]

Probably the same reason why people insist that one company's weaker console holds back their more powerful console yet suddenly believe that another company's weaker console won't hold back their more powerful console.

I wonder why.

FYI, PS5 "base" console is like 3X more powerful than Series S....

Just a little difference...

 

[MikeM]

As a recent starting pc player (console owner as well) I'm failing to see the pc flaws as opposed to consoles. I wish I would have got a pc sooner. I play from desk and couch the same way as on console. A wireless keyboard and mouse and a controller are all I need.

Now on topic, I will probably get a PS5 Pro because I can but I'm not really excited for it.

Depends on the user. Some people may not want to build a PC (prebuilt is obviously an option), deal with drivers/instability issues, any sort of troubleshooting and/or simply boot up another PC that reminds you of your work PC.

I have a high end PC and a PS5 and see the pros and cons of both.

 

[Rendered Tangent]

I'd like to see some proof of that, it's easy to just sit on your chair and say how easy something could have been achieved years ago.

I can't provide proof, it's just my opinion.

I don't believe anything in this pro will be so bleeding edge it couldn't have been introduced a few years ago.

Maybe, they've refined the architecture and lowered the cost...I don't really know.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I can't provide proof, it's just my opinion.

I don't believe anything in this pro will be so bleeding edge it couldn't have been introduced a few years ago.

Maybe, they've refined the architecture and lowered the cost...I don't really know.

The tech inside the pro didn't exist three years ago

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

I don't get ya'll. As a tech addict/collector, I love the idea of a PS5 Pro. If it improves graphics, making 4k 60fps more achievable, I am all for it.
For those asking why spend this amount of money and not just get a PC?

• Many of us do not enjoy gaming on PC. I am one of them. I have more than enough funds to build a kick ass gaming rig, but I just don't enjoy it. I am on a PC all day for work. PC = work to me for the most part. I want to leave my office and go into my media room, where everything works when I turn it on.
• Many PC gamers are buying a new graphics card every year or two to stay with the latest and greatest. So sure, build a PC now, but in 2-3 years you have to upgrade it if you want to make the games look/perform the best. How is this different than buying a new console every four years?
• When I get the Pro console, my other PS5 will go into my living room as another place to be able to play games. Now I have two devices that can play the same games.

As for those saying they will not buy it and/or PS5 generation games are just now coming out:
That is the beauty of it. You do not need to buy it. All PS5 games will still play on the older console, so why complain about the PS5 Pro coming out?

The part I've highlighted is a major deal for me at the moment, especially considering I've been 'stuck' working from home about 95% of the time since March 2020. Frankly, the last thing I want is to spend even more time gaming on my PC when I'm already 'glued' to it for a good 8-9 hours a day for work, so having the option to get a souped-up PS5 for my gaming needs sounds very appealing to me.

 

[ZoukGalaxy]

 

[Rendered Tangent]

W

The tech inside the pro didn't exist three years ago

Which tech is that?

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

W

Which tech is that?

RDNA 3

 

[Physiognomonics]

I don't believe in 6 or 5nm. I believe in 4 or 3nm.

It's either 6/7 nm or 4/5. 6 or 5nm means he has no idea.

 

[Xdrive05]

Business question: Why does Sony need to release a Pro if Micrisoft is not also releasing a new more powerful SKU? Sony has already run away with the market. They're only competing with themselves in doing so.

Not that I would ever discourage bring more powerful hardware to the masses, but still.

 

[FrankWza]

Business question: Why does Sony need to release a Pro if Micrisoft is not also releasing a new more powerful SKU? Sony has already run away with the market. They're only competing with themselves in doing so.

Not that I would ever discourage bring more powerful hardware to the masses, but still.

Because that's what their customers want. That's the way it's supposed to work.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Business question: Why does Sony need to release a Pro if Micrisoft is not also releasing a new more powerful SKU? Sony has already run away with the market. They're only competing with themselves in doing so.

Not that I would ever discourage bring more powerful hardware to the masses, but still.

Maybe to give less people a reason to get a Series X?

 

[bender]

Maybe to give less people a reason to get a Series X?

Phil has that covered on his own, thanks.

 

[FrankWza]

Maybe to give less people a reason to get a Series X?

PC most likely

 

[MikeM]

Business question: Why does Sony need to release a Pro if Micrisoft is not also releasing a new more powerful SKU? Sony has already run away with the market. They're only competing with themselves in doing so.

Not that I would ever discourage bring more powerful hardware to the masses, but still.

Stop people from going over to PC.

 

[Xdrive05]

Sony's like the anti-Nintendo when it comes to hardware. I dig their chutzpah in sticking to the plan of releasing a Pro despite no competition for it. There could be bad pricing implications consequently.

If the rumors are true that the CPU will boost to 4.4, that actually has massive implications for performance modes coming back with games that can't do better than 30fps on base PS5. Hoping that's the way this goes.

 

[Dr.brain64]

I'm in the :

I would rather get a ps5 pro instead of a pc

camp.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Sony's like the anti-Nintendo when it comes to hardware. I dig their chutzpah in sticking to the plan of releasing a Pro despite no competition for it. There could be bad pricing implications consequently.

If the rumors are true that the CPU will boost to 4.4, that actually has massive implications for performance modes coming back with games that can't do better than 30fps on base PS5. Hoping that's the way this goes.

I don't think that matters when they have the PS5.

 

[Trilobit]

Great, now we can play PS4 games in even better fidelity! Wow!

 

[Unknown?]

I meant buying the base console, and then buying the upgrade in a few years. If the PS5 Pro is $750 as I think it will be, you're looking at a minimum of $1150 spent on hardware for a whole gen, getting close to what a person with a decent gaming PC spends on upgrades over the course of 7ish years. All without the benefits of open store platforms driving prices down.

I'll admit I kind of butchered my original post. Tl;dr, PC prices for console limitations.

Not even the price of a GPU, NEXT!

 

[FrankWza]

Great, now we can play PS4 games in even better fidelity! Wow!

An 8th or 9th benefit to them releasing a Pro console. Good call

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

Business question: Why does Sony need to release a Pro if Micrisoft is not also releasing a new more powerful SKU? Sony has already run away with the market. They're only competing with themselves in doing so.

Not that I would ever discourage bring more powerful hardware to the masses, but still.

Because it boosts sales. They are fully aware that 20% of all PS4 sales were of the PS4pro variant, that is over 20M.

In three years, MS has barely managed to sell that many consoles in their entire Series range, so I am sure there is value in selling that many pro consoles if they can.

You have this situation where a lot of people who bought the OG PS5 go in for the upgrade and put their older console on the used market. That used console sale is still a new consumer that is now in Sony's ecosystem. Oh, and there is the PR bonus too.

 

[AncientOrigin]

Still think it is fucking stupid. But I just saw a post of some asshole who was happy he "upgraded" to a slim so I know there is a market for this. I just question how big it is and why they would incur extra dev costs for every fucking game to make them work on 2 sets of specs.

This is not also meant for people to upgrade of course anyone who wants can do it.Around 20 million every year till the end of this consoles lifespan are sold so the ones who buy their first one have the ability to buy for 100 Dollars more way stronger version.The upgrades will be the minority the new buyers will buy it more.

 

[March Climber]

Business question: Why does Sony need to release a Pro if Micrisoft is not also releasing a new more powerful SKU? Sony has already run away with the market. They're only competing with themselves in doing so.

Not that I would ever discourage bring more powerful hardware to the masses, but still.

For the same reasons that Nintendo Released a 3DS, 3DS XL, New 3DS, 2DS, and New 2DS XL, when the Vita was already dead by the time the 3DS XL came out.

 

[Little Chicken]

Well? I'm waiting

 

[SkyHighTrees]

GT7 will look amazing on this, thats what matters

 

[MidGenRefresh]

2022 high-end PC parts in 2024 customer friendly priced package sound good.

I'll get one when GTA VI releases.

 

[Physiognomonics]

Sony's like the anti-Nintendo when it comes to hardware. I dig their chutzpah in sticking to the plan of releasing a Pro despite no competition for it. There could be bad pricing implications consequently.

If the rumors are true that the CPU will boost to 4.4, that actually has massive implications for performance modes coming back with games that can't do better than 30fps on base PS5. Hoping that's the way this goes.

Maybe. But they just released PS Portal in order to compete against Switch.

 

[saintjules]

I still don't think the PS5 Pro is real.

If Hendersen is wrong, he will be added to the shitlist.

 

[SHA]

A 14tf machine, sounds more of an afterthought than a solid release if you take games development schedule into account.

 

[REDRZA MWS]

A 14tf machine, sounds more of an afterthought than a solid release if you take games development schedule into account.

It’s a mid den refresh, it a a next gen console.

 

[TGO]

I thought the Dev Kit's was already in 3rd Party developer hands and that's where the leaks came from.
Either way, game's currently in production for next year will have this land on their doorstep mid production.
Can't say I expect them to utilise it in the current productions.

 

[damidu]

A 14tf machine, sounds more of an afterthought than a solid release if you take games development schedule into account.

lol let me guess, ps5 was overclocked last minute because of series x scare, and it will melt my house any minute now.

 

[Rob_27]

Just bring it out. Anything new and juicy I will have.

 

[Rendered Tangent]

RDNA 3

If RDNA 3 wasn't around a few years ago and is definitely in the ps5 pro, fair enough.

Saying that, has Sony actually confirmed any of this and acknowledged the pro is coming, what's in it, when it's out etc...?

Because, if they have, I don't remember seeing or hearing about any of it.

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

If RDNA 3 wasn't around a few years ago and is definitely in the ps5 pro, fair enough.

Saying that, has Sony actually confirmed any of this and acknowledged the pro is coming, what's in it, when it's out etc...?

Because, if they have, I don't remember seeing or hearing about any of it.

If the PS4pro is anything to go by, then Sony kinda doesn't make it a habit to say anything about pro consoles until they are talking about it and giving a release date which would be like a month or two away from whenever they announce it.

Look at how they handled the PS5 refresh... that's the same thing they will do with the Pro.

And the same person that revealed a PS5 refresh with a detachable drive, a PS portal (handheld), hell even earbuds were all in the works almost a year before there were any official announcements for them, also said the Pro is coming.

That's as good a confirmation as anything. Besides, this is one of those things where if it were not happening, Sony would have at least said "We have no plans to make a PS5pro".

 

[GHG]

"will do nothing to improve creativity"

Wait..... is this really a negative we're throwing at pro consoles now?

Thus, I'm curious, what is needed to improve creativity?

I think it's safe to say some people enjoy things like the "creative choice" of 30fps.

I beg to differ.

Because that's what their customers want. That's the way it's supposed to work.

Yep. Companies should strive to give their consumers the products that they want, not obsess over what a so called "competitor" is doing, especially when said "competitor" is doing a poor job of giving consumers what they want.

 

[jroc74]

I think it's safe to say some people enjoy things like the "creative choice" of 30fps.

I beg to differ.



Yep. Companies should strive to give their consumers the products that they want, not obsess over what a so called "competitor" is doing, especially when said "competitor" is doing a poor job of giving consumers what they want.

Yup. Its almost like saying why is Sony doing PSVR 2 and the Portal.

MS arent doing that and yet Sony decided to go full steam ahead. I think its safe to say Sony has released a chunk of different hardware this gen. Despite what the competition is doing.

 

[Goliath77]

Its

I legit don't get this kind of post.

There have been plenty of next gen games.
Cross-gen games are still PS5 games and they play way better on PS4.

Are you people aware you can still play many modern games with 10 year old hardware

Its really not hard to understand. They have barely started taking advantage of the ps5. There are maybe a handful of current gen only games. You really gonna pay another 500 for a slight image bump?

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

What are developers supposed to do with this “kits”? Discover issues? PS5 is really good.

Yeah good If you want to play GTAVI in 1440p with 30fps.

 

[HeWhoWalks]

Its

Its really not hard to understand. They have barely started taking advantage of the ps5. There are maybe a handful of current gen only games. You really gonna pay another 500 for a slight image bump?

Folks spend their money how they want. The issue is?

 

[rofif]

Its

Its really not hard to understand. They have barely started taking advantage of the ps5. There are maybe a handful of current gen only games. You really gonna pay another 500 for a slight image bump?

yep.
We don't need pro. We have not even showcased this gen power properly.
There are people looking at subpar performing and shimmering games (like aw2 recently) and blaming console power.
How can you say that when we have demons souls with perfect perfrmance and image quality at launch?
Art and dev talent is the only limiting facto here.

Obviously I will pre-order the shit out of ps5 lol. of course I will. Why not..., but I realize that I am fueling this stupidity

 

[Rob_27]

There is no point bringing out a 14tf capable machine...

Can we keep the same maths as current PS5 and XBOX Series x. 10 and 12 TF.

What will be the new PS5 pro? If you are talking 14tf don't fucking bother.

 

[HeWhoWalks]

yep.
We don't need pro. We have not even showcased this gen power properly.
There are people looking at subpar performing and shimmering games (like aw2 recently) and blaming console power.
How can you say that when we have demons souls with perfect perfrmance and image quality at launch?
Art and dev talent is the only limiting facto here.

Obviously I will pre-order the shit out of ps5 lol. of course I will. Why not..., but I realize that I am fueling this stupidity

This is like telling someone not to smoke because it's terrible while puffing on one yourself. Obviously, it isn't an issue if you're going to "pre-order the shit out of ps5, lol". No one needs a console, but people buy it because they desire it. Thus, I don't get the complaining about another option that you can skip. It hurts nothing.

Rob_27

So what's an acceptable theoretical number? What would be enough for them to bother?

 

[damidu]

Its really not hard to understand. They have barely started taking advantage of the ps5. There are maybe a handful of current gen only games. You really gonna pay another 500 for a slight image bump?

yeah it is hard to understand, its extremely tired narrative
cross gen is pretty much over, there are games already running at ridiculous sub-hd resolutions. this will be released in a year, when situation will be even worse.
people pay thousands every other year on pc for "slight" image bump. there is obviously a market for it, hence why they are doing it.
best of all, you are not forced to upgrade, good luck waiting for devs to create miracles on base consoles.

 

[rofif]

This is like telling someone not to smoke because it's terrible while puffing on one yourself. Obviously, it isn't an issue if you're going to "pre-order the shit out of ps5, lol". No one needs a console, but people buy it because they desire it. Thus, I don't get the complaining about another option that you can skip. It hurts nothing.

My 1 purchase will not change the world.
I am not boycotting ps5 pro myself alone lol. This is my leading platform this gen and I want to be on top of the game.
Although - if we have pro and pro ultra next gen... I can take 0.000000001% of the blame

 

[HeWhoWalks]

My 1 purchase will not change the world.
I am not boycotting ps5 pro myself alone lol. This is my leading platform this gen and I want to be on top of the game.
Although - if we have pro and pro ultra next gen... I can take 0.000000001% of the blame

Most people won't boycott it. One, that's stupid, as you can skip it and no one is forced into it. Two, how is it any different than the graphics card/PC market (that people also don't boycott)? It's an option.

Like I said, the discourse is definitely a head-scratcher.

 

[rofif]

Most people won't boycott it. One, that's stupid, as you can skip it and no one is forced into it. Two, how is it any different than the graphics card/PC market (that people also don't boycott)? It's an option.

Like I said, the discourse is definitely a head-scratcher.

It's no different as you say.
But don't you think there is a risk we get like new console each year?
How did smartphones got to new S24, pro, ultra, ultra max every year? With no upgrades at that.

 

[Skifi28]

There is no point bringing out a 14tf capable machine...

Can we keep the same maths as current PS5 and XBOX Series x. 10 and 12 TF.

What will be the new PS5 pro? If you are talking 14tf don't fucking bother.

If it has hardware acceleration for RT and upscaling like the rumors suggest, raw TF means very little.