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So Hollywood? This kind of thinking and attitude from the people in charge is nothing new.
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Pacifica Ocean!
So Hollywood? This kind of thinking and attitude from the people in charge is nothing new.
If the lead is Bullock it could be his sister.
andythinkpad
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Danny Ocean's daughter and wife.
Oceans 11 is already a remake, and already got 2 sequels.
What I think is strange is I kind of hate these movies, wife dragged me to see them because she has a crush on Clooney.
Dany Ocean, Dani Ocean, ...etc. It's a name. Women have names, too.
Ordinaryundone
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A Hideo Kojima reboot.
HazySaiyan
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I've been trying to think of an eloquent way to put that idea for ages now. This is perfect.
Stupid reboot of a stupid reboot?
Ordinaryundone
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And I still say that the exact same thing happened then that happened now. I find reboots to be creatively bankrupt in general and in that case all they really did was take the name and premise and make their own thing. Nobody out there is suggesting the Oceans franchise is some sort of pillar of modern Hollywood, it was always just an excuse plot to get a bunch of famous actors and actresses on screen being pretty and charming in exotic places.
Zen_Arcade
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They're all supposed to be jabs at Feminism. Well, their warped idea at what Feminism is.
Three Men & The Baby I Didn't Want To Raise = Feminists sleep around with multiple men and have kids they don't want to take care of.
The fat and the furious = Probably a Tumblr Feminist cliche.
the 90 Year Old Virgin = Probably them imagining your cliche Short hair/flannel shirt wearing Feminist/Lesbian and claiming that they can't get laid for whatever reason.
Honey I took ur money = This one is just claiming that women are gold diggers.
shadow_shogun
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Had no idea the new Ocean's movie was an all female cast. Colour me interested.
Aztechnology
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If this is supposed to be an actual cultural shift like they make it out to be. Then why not actually make interesting and unique movies with female leads instead of reboots. It's just feels cheapened in the process... For me at least. I guess these production studios don't really give a shit though. Probably just trying to cash in on the cultural relevance.
That being said if we're getting an all female reboot I'll take
Snatch #FeministAMovie
Ordinaryundone
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Ironically, that'd actually be a pretty decent title for a sassy all female heist flick.
Fudgepuppy
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I'm outraged, livid, at them casting Rihanna.
Now I'm not really, just feel like it's a waste of a spot in the team when there are better options.
Still interested, I miss caper-movies.
Now I'm not really, just feel like it's a waste of a spot in the team when there are better options.
Still interested, I miss caper-movies.
Again this is Hollywood as it gets. Not sure why you're surprised. They've been doing the cheap and easy thing of just relying on nostalgia and doing remakes of older well loved movies for decades now. This time they're just adding another bit to it by remaking older films with women as the leads.
I doubt all that many people cared about the original Rat Pack movie when they made the Clooney Ocean's 11. What happens in a lot of these cases is that a filmmaker comes up with an idea for a film, and the studio attaches it to another property that they have the rights to. That's how films like Will Smith's I, Robot got named.
Yeah man, fuck reboots! I only like the ORIGINAL Oceans 11.
Aztechnology
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I'm not surprised at all. I'm just at the eye rolling stage all the time now with them trying to accept credit for a half assed attempt at promoting equality.
Screaming Meat
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ZING!
I don't care if they're men or women, as long as the film is good. That cast looks like a damn interesting lineup.
Bond makes one too many passes at Moneypenny and ends up at an employment tribunal
Bond makes one too many passes at Moneypenny and ends up at an employment tribunal
Ordinaryundone
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They got crossbred into the action movie genre. The Mission: Impossible and Fast and the Furious movies are heist films in all but name. Just add cars and explosions.
digitalrelic
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Called it:
And several people denied it would happen and that somehow Ghostbusters just happened to attract the wrong kind of people... Sheesh. Misogyny is a very, very real issue in our country.
And several people denied it would happen and that somehow Ghostbusters just happened to attract the wrong kind of people... Sheesh. Misogyny is a very, very real issue in our country.
Aztechnology
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The point was not that film specifically. Just why does it need to be reboots at all versus a new IP that can belong to a female cast. You know? I feel like I can't say exactly what I mean. Can't find the words.
Atlantica Ocean would surely be more appropriate given the female cast? After all, it's frigid and cold. /MRA
Why would this movie need to be considered a reboot? There's already been two sequels to Ocean's Eleven, this one can be a third, and then the fourth can be a crossover between the teams: Oceans' Twenty One
LucidMomentum
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Why can't it be an Ocean's film featuring an all female cast?
It doesn't need to be, but brand recognition in Hollywood is big.
So big in fact, that people are talking about it negatively on Twitter.
If it was given any other title people wouldn't be talking as much, I'll give it that.
Where did you read it is an attempt to promote equality? Are you reaching?
It is a sequel. Rumour is Bullock plays Clooney's sister.
Aztechnology
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You're right. I'm assuming something that isn't necessarily inherent. But given that they know how it's going to be received and discussed when they announced it, it's sort of a given. It creates a media stir. But yea, I am reaching.
The economics of Cinema have changed, reboots of familiar properties get people into the Theater. The days of people going and just seeing whatever looks good are over, this is why Marvel movies are so successful
That doesn't mean it's a good thing though.
Aztechnology
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Fuck me, I hope you're wrong... TV save us. Which it has to a degree. TV has never been better, far better than films lately.
Cool that makes sense.
Hmm never thought of it that way. Maybe I should give the FF movies a shot. The trailers never grabbed me before.
weemadarthur
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It has to do with how films are financed. A new property has a much harder time getting a greenlight and finding people willing to invest their money into it. There are tons of original ideas floating around in Hollywood, but only a tiny fraction ever get made into films. And this tiny fraction tend to be safer bets and known properties. If you want real originality, then why are you looking at Hollywood films?
Fallout-with-swords
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A bunch of 17 year old reddit users are about to become huge Ocean's fans that are just very concerned with the direction of the franchise.
Aztechnology
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Because I'm naively optimistic/idealistic.
Puck Beaverton
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We wouldn't be talking about this movie if it wasn't a reboot/remake/spinoff.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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The 40 Year Old Virgin
Sequels/Reboots don't have to be bad, look at last years Mad Max: Fury Road
Then again, look at last years Terminator Genisys
I agree with you on TV, especially now we have services like Netflix which are less beholden to advertising revenue. Allows for a much bigger variety of content
adamsappel
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I think "feminizing" a remake is one of the more-clever trends in Hollywood. Reboots and remakes are always going to happen, It certainly beats just recasting the same roles with a hotter, younger version. If you take a principled stand against remaking any film I guess you can freely criticize it, but I don't believe anyone actually does this, unless they're ready to disavow The Thing. Nor do people seem to mind remaking a non-American film.
Fittingly enough, Furiosa got the most backlash. I wonder why.
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